neorv32 VS sail-riscv

Compare neorv32 vs sail-riscv and see what are their differences.

neorv32

:rocket: A tiny, customizable and extensible MCU-class 32-bit RISC-V soft-core CPU and microcontroller-like SoC written in platform-independent VHDL. (by stnolting)
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neorv32

Posts with mentions or reviews of neorv32. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-03-08.

sail-riscv

Posts with mentions or reviews of sail-riscv. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-28.
  • How to improve the RISC-V specification
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Apr 2024
    I've been doing a lot of work with Sail (not SAIL btw) and I'm not sure I agree with the points about it.

    There's already a way to extract functions into asciidoc as the author noted. I've used it. It works well.

    The liquid types do take some getting used to but they aren't actually used in most of the code; mostly for utility function definitions like `zero_extend`. If you look at the definition for simple instructions they can be very readable and practically pseudocode:

    https://github.com/riscv/sail-riscv/blob/0aae5bc7f57df4ebedd...

    A lot of instructions are more complex or course but that's what you get if you want to precisely define them.

    Overall Sail is a really fantastic language and the liquid types really help avoid bugs.

    The biggest actual problems are:

    1. The RISC-V spec is chock full of undefined / implementation defined behaviour. How do you capture that in code, where basically everything is defined. The biggest example is probably WARL fields which can do basically anything. Another example is decomposing misaligned accesses. You can decompose them into any number of atomic memory operations and do them in any order. E.g. Spike decomposes them into single byte accesses. (This problem isn't really unique to Sail tbf).

    2. The RISC-V Sail model doesn't do a good job of letting you configure it currently. E.g. you can't even set the spec version at the moment. This is just an engineering problem though. We're hoping to fix it one day using riscv-config which is a YAML file that's supposed to specify all the configurable behaviour about a RISC-V chip.

    I definitely agree about the often wooly language in the spec though. It doesn't even use RFC-style MUST/SHOULD/MAY terms.

  • RISC-V Vector benchmark results
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 11 Nov 2023
    The official formal specification of the Vector Extension has just been merged into the Golden RISC-V model:

    https://github.com/riscv/sail-riscv/commit/c90cf2e6eff5fa4ef...

  • Cascade: CPU Fuzzing via Intricate Program Generation
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 23 Oct 2023
    the retired instruction counters when written by software.

    Funnily enough the Sail model had this bug too! https://github.com/riscv/sail-riscv/issues/256

  • Arm’s Cortex A510: Two Kids in a Trench Coat
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 2 Oct 2023
    > loose specification of the RISC-V ISA.

    This is being worked on with the Sail model [1]. In order for a RISC-V extension to be ratified it ought to be implemented in Sail. The understanding is also that the RISC-V ISA manual should be built with code snippets from the Sail model (similar to how the Arm Arm is build from ASL definition). The main issue is a lack of people willing and able to write Sail for RISC-V. But that is beginning to change, since RISC-V member companies are increasingly use Sail. As an example, the RISC-V exception type is defined in [2]. Is that precise enough for you?

    [1] https://github.com/riscv/sail-riscv

    [2] https://github.com/riscv/sail-riscv/blob/master/model/riscv_...

  • RISC-V CPU formal specification F# edition
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Jul 2023
    >it allows to formally verify the correctness of a particular ISA

    That must be hypothetical. Functionalness of the language doesn't make anything that is written in it automatically subject to formal verification. (mechanized or pen and paper). What kind of correctness properties does it actually allow to formally verify? I understand if it was the F* language, which is a full blown dependently typed proof checker, but with F#, which is defined by the implementation and 300 page English spec, I don't think you can verify anything interesting. As far as I know F# itself doesn't have mechanized formal semantics and its type system could be unsound.

    https://github.com/mit-plv/riscv-coq and https://github.com/riscv/sail-riscv (don't know how complete they are) approaches actually allow to formally (mechanically) verify riscv properties.

  • 64-bit Arm ∩ 64-bit RISC V
    2 projects | /r/asm | 7 Jun 2023
  • C++17 RISC-V RV32/64/128 userspace emulator library
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 18 Nov 2022
  • Starting up with RISC-V
    3 projects | /r/RISCV | 4 Feb 2022
    I guess you will also use Spike and the Sail model for RISC-V.
  • Areas to contribute in RISC-V RTL verification
    5 projects | /r/RISCV | 6 Mar 2021
    Doing something leveraging the SAIL model would be valuable, as that's the official formal model: https://github.com/rems-project/sail-riscv

What are some alternatives?

When comparing neorv32 and sail-riscv you can also consider the following projects:

VexRiscv - A FPGA friendly 32 bit RISC-V CPU implementation

litmus-tests-riscv - RISC-V architecture concurrency model litmus tests

linux-on-litex-vexriscv - Linux on LiteX-VexRiscv

riscv-isa-sim - Spike, a RISC-V ISA Simulator

picoMIPS - picoMIPS processor doing affine transformation

riscv-dv - Random instruction generator for RISC-V processor verification

upduino-projects - Various VHDL projects I've worked on for the Upduino v2.0 and v3.0

riscv-coq - RISC-V Specification in Coq

chipyard - An Agile RISC-V SoC Design Framework with in-order cores, out-of-order cores, accelerators, and more

libriscv - C++20 RISC-V RV32/64/128 userspace emulator library

lxp32-cpu - A lightweight, open source and FPGA-friendly 32-bit CPU core based on an original instruction set

force-riscv - Instruction Set Generator initially contributed by Futurewei