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MIT License | BSD 2-clause "Simplified" License |
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makepad
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WASM: Big Deal or Little Deal?
It is what Makepad is working on in an interesting way using Wasm and Rust. They have created a Figma-like DSL and a good code separation with the logic behind it. You can edit UI's of in-production apps, and they are bundling an editor for that. Accessibility is an issue, and the project are looking to offer proper support there. In their video linked on the README they run the conference slides on Makepad with live apps embedded and running at 120 fps.
https://github.com/makepad/makepad
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36567681
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Snappy UIs with WebAssembly and Web Workers
> if anyone tells you they need to use WebAssembly to make the UI snappy I'd advise you interrogate that assertion thoroughly.
Get prepared to be blown away by Makepad [0]. I have no affiliation with them, but just watched their most recent conference presentation [1]. The slides were made with Makepad itself and included, embedded, a full-blown IDE, a synthesizer app, a Mandelbrod to zoom in endlessly, and more. All running at 120fps. The presentation is for the most part live-coding with this setup.
What they want to do is bring coders and designers closer together, and while some code is in Rust they developed a DSL for the GUI parts that is close to how Figma works. These GUI's can run anywhere.
And I couldn't help thinking "Why would people have complicated stacks to create Web 2.0 apps for the Google Web, when they have this?", in other words an opportunity to break out of the browser straitjacket.
[0] https://github.com/makepad/makepad
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC4FCS-oMpg
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Makepad- Synthesizer Written in Rust
For those who haven’t seen it, Makepad is also an in-browser code editor with an open-source UI toolkit. Looks like this synth is one of the examples of the UI toolkit.
https://makepad.dev/
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50 Shades of Rust, or emerging Rust GUIs in a WASM world
And I'm obsessed with what happens when you press Alt in their editor. I never knew I wanted this, but boy, do I want it.
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Leveraging Rust and the GPU to render user interfaces at 120 FPS
I tried this, using https://makepad.dev our GPU accelerated UI and renderstack. And unfortunately it wasn't a great experience. Text popping forward for whatever reason is not really an improvement (i tried indent depth, syntax highlighting reasons, cursor behavior). Maybe 'veeeeery' subtly could do something, but otherwise you dont want it to break visual symmetry as we are used to
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Is the regex crate a bottleneck in your program? If so, can you share the details?
Wow, so they did: https://github.com/makepad/makepad/pull/142
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Ask HN: I just want to have fun programming again
It says on the front page Mac and Web only
https://github.com/makepad/makepad#prerequisites
(windows and linux are coming )
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Rust Web Framework Comparison
We can! It’s a lot of work because you don’t have the whole JS ecosystem to fall back on, but to some that’s a feature not a bug.
My favorite example of this is https://makepad.dev
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Lapce release v0.0.12 open source code editor
And a feature highlight of Code Lens. The idea is borrowed from https://github.com/makepad/makepad
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Why Not Rust?
When it comes to compile times, the most optimized Rust codebase I know for optimized for this is makepad.dev [1].
It is compiling from scratch on mac m1 in around 7.5s [2] and that's +100k lines of Rust. However there is close to none dependencies, so this +100k is all there is to compile pretty much.
[1] https://makepad.dev/
[2] https://twitter.com/rikarends/status/1467529091284934666
bgfx
- WebKit Switching to Skia for 2D Graphics Rendering
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Is it possible and realistic to learn independent of an API?
Sort of, I'd recommend a modern higher level API. I'm not sure what the current recommended ones are (probably bgfx), but assuming the wrapper is "low level enough", then the concepts you learn are still going to apply.
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Ask HN: Released games built on FOSS engines?
https://github.com/bkaradzic/bgfx for just that FOSS intermediate rendering library (includes Minecraft)
- Valve Says Counter-Strike 2 for macOS Not Happening, There Aren't Enough Players
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The Ultimate Cross-Platform Rendering Engine?
BGFX: Pretty mature and easy to use with many backends.
- Cairo – Open-Source 2D Graphics Layer/API with Fonts and Many Back-Ends
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Best graphics libraries for game development that are compatible with Apple Metal API?
bgfx. I have not used it, but I have heard good things about it.
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LWJGL = SFML vs Allegro vs SDL vs Ogre vs ???
There's kind of a lack of this for C++ in 3D, I think it's often due to the necessity of a secondary scripting language in game engines with C++, which isn't necessarily needed in Java or C#. SFML is like that (but also 2D), Godot is similar (but more geared towards 2D). Ogre3D is an actual engine like I mentioned earlier, not sure how easy it is to use. Cocos2d is higher level, but is also 2D only. I'm not fond of SDL, it feels like a windowing library with slow old school immediate mode stuff attached, so it ends up not being good at the rest of the tacked on things. SDL is popular as a windowing library, and it's why you see it used everywhere (but the most notable uses of it aren't using their drawing capabilities), I often see bgfx thrown around, and for you it might be a good choice, though I have no experience with it.
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Is it a crazy idea to create a 3D operating system?
Another route could be using an abstraction over Vulkan (faster, more efficient, more difficult): bgfx, dawn, magma, or wgpu (Rust).
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The update we all want but will never get
now, java is actually quite a performant language and even if its not most of the performance bugs in mc are due to it being single threaded, inefficient chunk generation and optimizing, and it built ontop of opengl WHICH isn't much of a performance hit but its still ehh idk it doesn't matter that much (NOW SWITCHING THE GAME TO AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT GRAPHICS API WOULD SUCK ASS TO DO (and vulkan is quite verbose :))) (AND also bgfx would probably be better due to it being an abstraction layer ontop of all the graphics apis so minecraft could target many depending on your platform (and also bedrock used to (or still does i dont know) use bgfx before they switched to just two (IF IM READING MC WIKI RIGHT BECAUSE IM NOT ENTIRELY SURE IF THEY USE BGFX STILL ?? SO THEY COULD STILL BE TARGETING MULTIPLE YET THEY JUST WROTE THEIR NEW SHIT BAD IDK))
What are some alternatives?
rust-gpu - 🐉 Making Rust a first-class language and ecosystem for GPU shaders 🚧
GLFW - A multi-platform library for OpenGL, OpenGL ES, Vulkan, window and input
ProseMirror - The ProseMirror WYSIWYM editor
DiligentEngine - A modern cross-platform low-level graphics library and rendering framework
Flutter - Flutter makes it easy and fast to build beautiful apps for mobile and beyond
magnum - Lightweight and modular C++11 graphics middleware for games and data visualization
gallery - Flutter Gallery was a resource to help developers evaluate and use Flutter
Ogre 3D - scene-oriented, flexible 3D engine (C++, Python, C#, Java)
react-canvas - High performance <canvas> rendering for React components
sokol - minimal cross-platform standalone C headers
xi-editor - A modern editor with a backend written in Rust.
The-Forge - The Forge Cross-Platform Rendering Framework PC Windows, Steamdeck (native), Ray Tracing, macOS / iOS, Android, XBOX, PS4, PS5, Switch, Quest 2