BabylonJS VS The-Forge

It's been around for a while, and we've featured it in the April 2019 and March 2022 Release Radars. It's also been in GitHub Game Bytes and on our latest episode of The Download. Yes, I'm talking about Babylon, the powerful web rendering engine for all kinds of graphics. The newest update includes support for basic Global Illumination, a highly requested feature. Read more about other cool new additions including Gaussian Splatting, Ragdoll physics, Procedural Geometry and all the breaking changes in the Babylon release notes.

Wow that site is super cool! So I see most of the 3D stuff is using canvas, maybe three.js or babylon.js or possibly pixi.js.

Sure; I've used [Phaser](https://phaser.io/) before for a game jam like project and I've heard of [PixiJS](https://pixijs.com/) and [Babylon.js](https://www.babylonjs.com/) as options too. I can't really give a good recommendation either way; Phaser was fun to just write TypeScript and see my game, but it felt like a toy compared to Unreal. I'm sure you could really push it to its limits though. You mentioned you know about LibGDX; I don't have experience with it, but it does seem like a viable option.

I’ve only messed around with it a bit, but https://www.babylonjs.com seems impressive

Oh, I forgot a few major ones:

https://github.com/ConfettiFX/The-Forge was used in No Man's Sky, Hades and Starfield.

https://github.com/jrouwe/JoltPhysics is the physics engine in Horizon Forbidden West.

To my understanding, every source I've read says that this should cause issues, but in practice it doesn't. What gives? Did I miss something? Here are multiple examples using the latter approach.

This is a toy project that I've been working on for the past few months. Essentially, I've rewritten all the rendering code for the engine using BGFX. This means that all the fixed function OpenGL 1.2 code has been removed from the engine. BGFX supports OpenGL 3.3 and DirectX11, but there are still some rendering artifacts with DirectX11, so the engine still uses OpenGL when running on Windows. I've been considering switching to The Forge (https://github.com/ConfettiFX/The-Forge) if I want to have more control over the rendering pipeline. However, this is a complex topic with significant implications for the codebase. I've already done the hard work of eliminating clumsy abstractions in the engine and simplifying the render pipeline, so it's just a matter of deciding what direction I want to take.

The-Forge might fit:

So, I'm not sure if it is widely known, that Starfield is going to be running on a lot of "The Forge." The creators of The Forge says it was added to Creation Kit in 2019. This will open a LOT of new systems for Bethesda games.