blender-tools VS kajiya

I work at Embark Studios on our creative platform. Our team is building everything in rust.

Tons of big companies are using it: Amazon, Discord, Cloudflare, etc. You can read about their success stories. As for game development, Veloren is a pretty complex game, and it's written entirely in Rust. Embark is betting on Rust for their game dev projects. ECS makes the dream work here, but an Actor framework would work too. You don't need DI. For example, in the web services I write using Actix, application state (stuff like clients for redis or http, db connection pool, etc.) is stored globally, and shared through the application state extractor. No dependency injection, but accessing that global state is just as convenient as if it was DI. If it's shared across workers, you put it behind a mutex/rwlock or use a concurrent data structure.

https://embark.dev/ is a major player in the rust ecosystem right now. They look like they are aiming for more of a startup feel rather than an indie one.

We are at Embark! https://embark.dev/, https://embark.rs, https://embark.games.

Is a remote-first culture, Rust-only team building our game platform from scratch on all levels and all types of code (gameplay, engine, generalists, backend, research/ml), and with a strong focus on open source.

Tons of game studios are using Blender in production. And for environment creation 3dsMax is much more popular in games. 2 Blender examples: - Embark: https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/blender-tools - Ubisoft: https://github.com/ubisoft/mixer

There's also Kajiya, though it's very new and works on a limited range of GPUs.

I don't know how major they are considered, but Embark Studios is doing quite a bit of Rust in the open source space, most notably (IMO) rust-gpu and kajiya

I'm also aware of https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/kajiya/, which has a pretty neat documentation:

> You can't even achieve PS2-era graphics with Rust right now

That's just straight up false:

https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/kajiya

There you go

What do you think of the Kajiya renderer from Embark Studios. Is there a desire from the core developers to improve the plugin and maybe use as a default renderer?

A good example of what you can do with rust-gpu is kajiya from rust-gpu's creators. You'll notice that every shaders are not using complex enum, traits or even vector (no_std) from Rust.

I know nothing about game engines/programming/design, but I have recently read about https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/kajiya and wondered if bevy could benefit from it?

This release constitutes a massive rendering API rework. You can think of it more as a foundation that makes it easier to implement better rendering features in the future.

If you check the release notes[0], you'll see HDR/Bloom support was dropped at the last minute, and several other major rendering features are still pending implementation.

The great part about Bevy is that it's modular, so you can swap out the renderer if you like. There's already several people using Bevy with Embark's kajiya renderer[1].

[0] https://bevyengine.org/news/bevy-0-6/#what-s-next-for-bevy

[1] https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/kajiya