veloren VS gdnative

I know that code.org's lessons have a "view the real code" box, helping to ease one into the "here's how to think about problems and structure, but here's the actual JavaScript that underpins it". If you haven't tried that, it may help

I also recently learned that Brilliant uses block-based lessons, too, so there's obviously some there-there

I would guess that a lot of the problem is one of actualization: how does one go from solving "someone else's problems" to one of realizing their own ideas. Based on what I've seen, I'd guess that a Minecraft mod port that maps blockly down into lua would go a long way toward "do some things that materialize change in an environment that is familiar." I haven't used Roblox, but I believe it's similar so if they have a programming language, same-same. I started to suggest using Valoren <https://gitlab.com/veloren/veloren#get-veloren> since it's actual FOSS and thus would be much, much easier to integrate into, but I haven't played it in order to know how much uncanny-valley it would have with any preexisting Minecraft experience

Games (Veloren, or check out this website for updates on other games being developed in Rust)

Firstly, it's open-source. That means that all code associated with the project is freely available (it's right here!) and you're welcome to download, modify, recompile, and make changes to it as you wish. In fact, there have already been a few forks of the project that added new items, abilities, bosses, and other such things. Veloren is also released under GPL v3, a license that pretty much ensures that the code will always be open-source, meaning that anybody can take the existing code and remix it, mod it, or otherwise build upon it.

I found this on the gitlab https://gitlab.com/veloren/veloren/-/issues/1755

sounds like a wayland issue, can you check our https://gitlab.com/veloren/veloren/-/issues list and if you dont find this error, you could help us by opening a bug and giving it a good description: Maybe there is even a workaround in our book:

Trying to replace C with something like Rust, is essentially saying that we should rewrite all kernels in Rust. C is the common language because it talks to the kernel, which talks to the hardware.

Forgetting how much would need to be replaced with objectively much slower code, Rust simply cannot do some things. You cannot always make absolute guarantees about memory safety for example when it comes to low-level programming. Sometimes to be fast, you have to make assumptions and take risks.

I am currently watching the Veloron game [1] as an example of how larger Rust projects may begin to look. I see something like this [2] and it doesn't look all dissimilar from C, just with a new syntax. Has writing this game eliminated all bugs? Nope [3]. Maybe there are less segfaults and bad memory management, but this was just one class of bugs.

[1] https://gitlab.com/veloren/veloren

[2] https://gitlab.com/veloren/veloren/-/blob/master/server/src/...

[3] https://gitlab.com/veloren/veloren/-/issues/?sort=closed_des...

Oh dang, looks like it's open source too. licensed under GPLv3 - https://gitlab.com/veloren/veloren

It's really amazing to see how Veloren has improved over the years. Makes me wonder what we'll see in the future. I was really surprised when I saw the train tracks merge request 😄

It's a little less standard use, but Godot has been used to build application guis, which could be paired with rust bindings to implement app logic. I can't speak to reproducibility/scalability, but Godot's ui is extremely solid, and I'd probably choose that over Bevy until Bevy's ui progress matures.

Adding onto this, I successfully written a game in Godot using gdnative / gdext. I started with a split approach using gdscript and rust for CPU intensive but found that the API layer was slow at transferring large amounts of data (serialization?). I ended up rewriting it in all rust and it worked like a charm. I was able to target native and web assembly, the web assembly was much slower but worked on the browser.

Check this: https://github.com/tomuxmon/bevy_roguelike if you are still into bevy. Scheduling is a bit bork and I have not found time to port it to latest bevy. But most of the systems should work fine(if used on latest bevy). But again. If you want faster result go with something like Godot. In fact, just go with Godot. It is mature, easy to start, no lock in(free and MIT license), a lot of learning material. Also with Godot you can also use Rust https://godot-rust.github.io/. Ditch Unity (do not have time to explain 😅). Have fun!

Bevy Godot-Rust

> Same for Godot.

While likely true that it's "Unlikely to ever be as supported" as the 4 officially supported languages[0] ("GDScript, C#, and, via its GDExtension technology, C and C++."), Godot's GDExtension technology is specifically intended for use in adding support for other languages.

The most relevant tracking issue for Rust is presumably:

* <https://github.com/godot-rust/gdnative/issues/824>

Which links to:

* <https://github.com/godot-rust/gdextension>

[0] https://docs.godotengine.org/en/4.0/getting_started/step_by_...

...Godot v3.x has Rust support via godot-rust and Godot v4.0 is released as of this month?

I was curious, and looked it up. Nothing built in, but there's an interesting project that works with godot: https://godot-rust.github.io/

There's people working on it: https://godot-rust.github.io/