blender-tools VS rust-gpu

I work at Embark Studios on our creative platform. Our team is building everything in rust.

Tons of big companies are using it: Amazon, Discord, Cloudflare, etc. You can read about their success stories. As for game development, Veloren is a pretty complex game, and it's written entirely in Rust. Embark is betting on Rust for their game dev projects. ECS makes the dream work here, but an Actor framework would work too. You don't need DI. For example, in the web services I write using Actix, application state (stuff like clients for redis or http, db connection pool, etc.) is stored globally, and shared through the application state extractor. No dependency injection, but accessing that global state is just as convenient as if it was DI. If it's shared across workers, you put it behind a mutex/rwlock or use a concurrent data structure.

https://embark.dev/ is a major player in the rust ecosystem right now. They look like they are aiming for more of a startup feel rather than an indie one.

We are at Embark! https://embark.dev/, https://embark.rs, https://embark.games.

Is a remote-first culture, Rust-only team building our game platform from scratch on all levels and all types of code (gameplay, engine, generalists, backend, research/ml), and with a strong focus on open source.

Tons of game studios are using Blender in production. And for environment creation 3dsMax is much more popular in games. 2 Blender examples: - Embark: https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/blender-tools - Ubisoft: https://github.com/ubisoft/mixer

Sounds cool, but this requires yet another language to learn[0]. As someone who only has limited knowledge in this space, could someone tell me how comparable is the compute functionality of rust-gpu[1], where I can just write rust?

[0] https://github.com/Hugobros3/shady#language-syntax

[1] https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/rust-gpu

I don't do anything related to data science, but I feel like doing it in Rust would be nice.

You get operator overloading, so you can have ergonomic matrix operations that are typed also. Processing data on the CPU is fast, and crates like https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/rust-gpu make it very ergonomic to leverage the GPU.

I like this library for creating typed coordinate spaces for graphics programming (https://github.com/servo/euclid), I imagine something similar could be done to create refined types for matrices so you don't do matrix multiplication matrices of invalid sizes

Do you mean rust-gpu?

And https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/rust-gpu/tree/main/examples with the wgpu runner (here it runs the compute shader)

I don't know how major they are considered, but Embark Studios is doing quite a bit of Rust in the open source space, most notably (IMO) rust-gpu and kajiya

The examples in the rust-gpu repository are a good place to start

There's another project that's similar that's being used by an actual game company: https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/rust-gpu

They see specific advantages here that would outweigh that negative. It's not my space (I play games, but know next to nothing about graphics programming), but there's at least one argument in the other direction.

Could this approach work for compute shaders (GPGPU) as well? So far, I think https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/rust-gpu is the state of the art in that area, but it adds a specific Rust compiler backend for generating SPIR-V rather than leaving that up to the driver. That seems more complicated than it needs to be... but maybe it has advantages too? Thoughts?

https://github.com/embarkstudios/rust-gpu Allows you to create shaders (kernals) in Rust.

Also Embark Studios (formers DICE people) is doing a lot of work with Rust, all open source like Rust GPU https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/rust-gpu