angle VS Flutter

It's using MoltenVK on Mac for Vulkan compatibility, and ANGLE for OpenGL compatibility on Windows and Linux. Makes you wonder what it's actually doing itself.

Can't they use https://github.com/google/angle?

BTW. For the last 15 years, all web browsers on Windows do WebGL on top of DirectX (using the Angle library https://github.com/google/angle).

You can still use OpenGL. Just not the vendor provided drivers. They are indeed horrible. There are libraries like:

* ANGLE ( https://github.com/google/angle ) - An OpenGL ES implementation with Direct3D 9, Direct3D 11, Desktop GL, GL ES, Vulkan and Metal backends. This is what we used to use for shipping our Qt 3D application, that used a bunch of OpenGL Shaders. We used to get bug reports about various shaders not working properly on various hardware. After switching to this, all those bug reports vanished.

* Zinc ( https://www.supergoodcode.com/do-not/ ) - A more recent, OpenGL implementation on top of Vulkan. I haven't used this one yet. But they are making a lot of progress and it is almost as performant as vendor provided OpenGL Drivers these days. So if I ever have to ship a desktop app, needing opengl, I'd strongly consider using this.

Another option if perf isn't a big concern is to try using Google's angle OpenGL ES 3.0 implementation, there's backends for it to be supported on Vulkan, Direct3D 11, and (work in progress) Metal. Disclosure, haven't tried it myself, just looking at their feature descriptions: https://github.com/google/angle

I don't believe Chrome uses OpenGL directly- any OpenGL usage it does have (e.g. for WebGL) is actually going through ANGLE which translates it all to D3D on Windows.

RTFM, have you read their instruction

[3]: https://github.com/flutter/flutter/tree/master/packages/flut...

Thanks - that link does not appear to be open access, anyways I don't think I've seen it. I'm familiar with Flutter at a high-level (Kevin Moore gave a great talk on it at Wasm I/O), and I think other than requiring users to work in Dart, it is probably one of the most powerful ways to do cross-platform UI today.

Worth noting that their original GPU backend was Skia, and now they are retooling around Flutter GPU (Impeller)[0], which is kind of designed similarly as an abstract rendering interface over platform-specific GPU APIs.

[0]https://github.com/flutter/flutter/wiki/Flutter-GPU

If you are considering Electron/React then I would suggest adding Flutter to your list of technologies to consider. It uses Dart (a language similar to C#) and has a lot going for it… relatively quick to get up to speed with, fantastic developer experience (e.g., hot reload, great IDE support, good development tools) and very strong cross-platform support: it generates native iOS, Android, MacOS, Windows and Linux executables. Check it out: https://flutter.dev/

You can find the React Native documentation here and Flutter Documentation here.

[1]https://github.com/flutter/flutter/issues/55092#issuecomment...

> There is actually a great issue thread on the Flutter GitHub that explains exactly why other solutions do not work correctly when compared to hooks [0]

Interesting. I assume you are referring to this comment in particular -> https://github.com/flutter/flutter/issues/51752#issuecomment... ?