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vroom
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How can I leverage RISC-V in my final year Electrical & Electronics Engineering project? Seeking advice and project ideas.
Maybe implement a big feature for a open source design? like vroom or xiangshan.
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In your opinion, what is the most advanced open source softcore processor?
The two most micro architecturally advanced cores that I know of are BOOM, an out of order RV64GC core with all the features you expect plus sort of weird fancy things like short forward branch predication, and VROOM, another out of order RV64GC core with things like uop fusion and a trace cache.
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ARM or x86? ISA Doesn’t Matter
I had VROOM! in mind (https://github.com/MoonbaseOtago/vroom) because I remembered it aims for 4 IPC avg with a width of 8. Though looking again it's 8 compressed 16 bit instructions or 4 uncompressed 32 bit instruction.
So you could argue a real mix of instructions is not going to be all 16 bit but some 16 and some 32, so the 8 is rarely achieved in practice, and also the block diagram only shows 4 decode blocks. But it can in fact peak at 8 instructions decoded per clock, so I think that qualifies. (You could even argue it's especially impressive, since RISC-V technically qualifies as variable-length encoding like x86, it's just that only 16/32 instructions are really used at the moment)
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How to build a Startup use open source chips
If you are interested in high performance look into vroom , c910 and xianghan, maybe you could adopt one of them.
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ARM versus RISC-V
On top of what others mentioned (Red Hat) , it is also possible to go with the mysql/mariadb model of dual licensing, you can have a copyleft license where you must contribute back changes, but also allow selling an proprietary license if they want to enhance it but not share the improvements (like amazon or Ampere Computing that enhance ARM designs and sells it for servers), there is already a RISK-V implementation that aims to do that (vroom). another option is a non profit foundation that companies contribute to because they use the project and want it to be better (like the linux foundation) , risc-v has similar nonprofits like the chips alliance (which develops the Rocket-Chip ) or the OpenHW Group (which develops CVA6), there is also lowrisc which develops ibex (but as far as i can tell isn't governed by the contributing companies like the other non profits).
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When will there be a 16-32 core RISC V high end desktop processor and motherboard ?
You want a very optimistic answer? someone is working on open source server core, It is already announced and i have been told it is somewhere around four years for a chip to ship after announcement so i would say 4 years from now.
- Open-source RISC-V CPU projects for contribution
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What caused/started the "CISC vs RISC" in the 1980s?
At the moment the Apple M1/M2 are the king of wide decode. Within a couple of years you will see equally wide decode and execute of RISC-V from companies such as Rivos, or indeed open source and GPL'd projects such as VROOM! (https://github.com/MoonbaseOtago/vroom)
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ARM to prohibit proximity of CPU w 3rd-party modules in one chip
> True performance RISCV designs are going to be people's money maker and never open sourced.
That turns out not to be the case.
Alibaba's C910 core -- roughly comparable to the ARM A72 cores (at the same MHz) in the Pi 4 -- is open sourced. It is being used, at 2.5 GHz, in the upcoming "Roma" laptop. That is rather expensive (for now), but I suspect the same TH1520 SoC will quickly find its way onto cheaper SBCs.
There is a very wide OoO GPL'd RISC-V core that is under development. It is aiming for eventual Apple M1 level performance. The current iteration is falling short of that at the moment, but it's already comparable to the ARM A76 in the latest RK3588 SBCs: https://github.com/MoonbaseOtago/vroom
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I am bored because I am not capable to work and want to learn something useful/interesting
Then you can help open source hardware designs like xiangshan or vroom.
picorv32
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RISC-V support in Android just got a big setback
> Right now, most devices on the market do not support the C extension
This is not true and easily verifiable.
The C extension is defacto required, the only cores that don't support it are special purpose soft cores.
C extension in the smallest IP available core https://github.com/olofk/serv?tab=readme-ov-file
Supports M and C extensions https://github.com/YosysHQ/picorv32
Another sized optimized core with C extension support https://github.com/lowrisc/ibex
C extension in the 10 cent microcontroller https://www.wch-ic.com/products/CH32V003.html
This one should get your goat, it implements as much as it can using only compressed instructions https://github.com/gsmecher/minimax
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SPI PROTOCOL in FPGA
In contrast to most people here saying you NEED to spend money. I disagree with that. You can implement and simulate a SPI master/slave fully on your computer, no FPGA or other hardware required. There are simulation models for SPI peripherals you could use. For example: https://github.com/YosysHQ/picorv32/blob/master/picosoc/spiflash.v
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How many gates does a decent risc-v implementation take?
The Pico RV32 is pretty small, and can go as low as about 750 LUTs, with most features elided. I don't know how Xilinix LUTs translate to Lattice though.
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Open-source RISC-V CPU projects for contribution
Picorv32: https://github.com/YosysHQ/picorv32
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We ran a Unix-like OS (Xv6) on our home-built CPU with our home-built C compiler
There are loads of free RISC-V cores that you can read the source of and run on cheap FPGAs. Take a look at PicoRV32: https://github.com/YosysHQ/picorv32
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SUGGEST AN OPEN SOURCE RISC-V CORE DESIGNED IN VERILOG
picorv32 is written in Verilog.
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Minimax: a Compressed-First, Microcoded RISC-V CPU
In short: it works, though the implementation lacks the crystal clarity of FemtoRV32 and PicoRV32. The core is larger than SERV but has higher IPC and (very arguably) a more conventional implementation. The compressed instruction set is easier to expand into regular RV32I instructions than it is to execute directly.
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Apple to Move a Part of Its Embedded Cores to RISC-V
That is, reducing the number of LUT required to implement a CPU of a given ISA.
A basic RV32 CPU is down to 500-700 LUT.
https://github.com/YosysHQ/picorv32
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Designing a reasonable memory interface
I've bought a cheap FPGA board (Sipeed Tang Nano 9K) because I want to implement a little 8 or 16-bit CPU. The FPGA has plenty of BRAM for such a little CPU, so I wouldn't even need to implement an SPI controller initially, but I want to implement a von Neumann architecture, and was wondering if the only way of doing so using single port (or semi dual port) RAM would be to use 2 cycles or more for memory transfer operations (one for loading the instruction, one for executing the actual memory transfer), or if there was any technique that could be used to avoid this without having to implement instruction-level parallelism. Even if not, references to understandable code implementing a simple memory interface would be appreciated. I looked at PicoRV32 but couldn't really understand its inner workings.
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Risc-v rv32i softcore processor for Zybo-z7-10
Have you looked at PicoRV32? https://github.com/YosysHQ/picorv32
What are some alternatives?
riscv-v-spec - Working draft of the proposed RISC-V V vector extension
openlane - OpenLane is an automated RTL to GDSII flow based on several components including OpenROAD, Yosys, Magic, Netgen and custom methodology scripts for design exploration and optimization.
XiangShan - Open-source high-performance RISC-V processor
neorv32-setups - 📁 NEORV32 projects and exemplary setups for various FPGAs, boards and (open-source) toolchains.
riscv-isa-manual - RISC-V Instruction Set Manual
rocket-chip - Rocket Chip Generator
openc910 - OpenXuantie - OpenC910 Core
skywater-pdk - Open source process design kit for usage with SkyWater Technology Foundry's 130nm node.
hn-search - Hacker News Search
wd65c02 - Cycle accurate FPGA implementation of various 6502 CPU variants
openc906 - OpenXuantie - OpenC906 Core
Projects - Ted Fried's MicroCore Labs Projects which include microsequencer-based FPGA cores and emulators for the 8088, 8086, 8051, 6502, 68000, Z80, Risc-V, and also Typewriter and EPROM Emulator projects. MCL51, MCL64, MCL65, MCL65+, MCL68, MCL86, MCL86+, MCL86jr, MCLR5, MCLZ8