Cinder VS metal-cpp

Have you come across openFrameworks (https://openframeworks.cc/) or Cinder (https://libcinder.org/)?

CProcessing reminds me of Cinder

I only used SFML, currently making a 2D isometric game. I really like it so far overall, easy to use IMO, pretty well documented. Does what I need it to do. Heard good things about SDL2 and also Cinder++ (https://libcinder.org/) also.

What kind of game? You might be better off using a game engine unless it's more of a simple starter project. Check out https://libcinder.org/ or see lots of engines here: https://github.com/collections/game-engines

Cinder

Try Cinder (https://libcinder.org/). I have not tried it myself but it seems to have the same goals as P5 and Processing (ie. creative coding).

Kind of a shorty thing for Meta to do when Cinder is already taken by https://libcinder.org

or its C++ cousins openFrameworks and Cinder

Mid Level [Three.js (WebGL)(https://libcinder.org/) Mesh, Geometry, Material, Lighting] [Graphics Library]

My understanding is the proliferation of “XYZ-cpp” AI frameworks is due to the c++ support in Apple’s gpu library ‘Metal’, and the popularity of apple silicon for inference (and there are a few technical reasons for this): https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/

This is basically also what the "official" C++ API for Metal does (https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/), it's an automatically generated bindings wrapper which calls into ObjC runtime functions.

I also dabbled a bit with this idea by parsing clang AST-dumps of macOS system headers:

https://github.com/floooh/objc-ast-experiments

Unfortunately this is very brittle, and also broke on ARM CPUs, I guess the shim code needs some ABI adjustments (famously, objc_msgSend has multiple "ABI shapes": https://www.mikeash.com/pyblog/objc_msgsends-new-prototype.h...).

There's official C++-interface: https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/

It doesn't matter if the project driven by Microsoft or not, the cat (of automatically generated language bindings) is out of the bag. E.g. Zig is using the same approach without being an official MS project: https://github.com/marlersoft/zigwin32, and Apple has an automatically generated C++ API for Metal (https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/).

In the future, the question won't be "what language do I need to learn to code on this platform", but instead "are there language bindings for my favourite language".

this? https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/

Doesn't it just use objc/runtime.h and if anything is missing you can just add your custom api calls?

Metal has C++ bindings (which cover a full app lifecycle so you don’t have to touch Objective-C/Swift at all) but they’re based on the Objective-C memory model. There are some helper structs mimicking shared pointers, but you’ll still need to understand the basics of how an autorelease pool is used to avoid memory leaks and/or bad access crashes.

On https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/ check Foundation folder and all those nice Object::sendMessage().