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• Ask HN: Most interesting tech you built for just yourself?
  149 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Apr 2023

  Two years ago I decided to built my own web browser, with the underlying idea to use the internet more efficiently (and to force cache everything).

  Took a while to find the architecture, but it's still an unfinished ambitious project. You can probably spend forever working on HTML and CSS fixes alone...

  [1] https://github.com/tholian-network/stealth

• The FBI Identified a Tor User
  3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Jan 2023
• The Iran Firewall: A preliminary report
  3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Oct 2022

  Most of the things you mentioned are implemented in the "Browser" that I've built. It's using multicast DNS to discover neighboring running instances and it has an offline cache first mentality, which means that e.g. download streams are shared among local peers.

  Global peer discovery is solved via mapping of identifiers via the reserved TLD, and via mutual TLS for identification and verification. So peers are basically pinned client certificates in your local settings.

  Works for most cases, had to implement a couple of breakout tunnel protocols though, so that peer discovery works failsafe when known IPs/ASNs are blocked.

  Relaying and scattering traffic works automatically, so that no correlation of IPs to scraped websites can be done by an MITM. Tunnel protocols are all generically implemented, DNS exfiltration, HTTPS smuggling, ICMP tunnels, and pwnat work already pretty failsafe.

  Lots of work to be done though, and had to focus on couple other things first before I can get back to the project.

  [1] https://github.com/tholian-network/stealth

• There are no Internet Browsers that cannot be tracked, or are there?
  3 projects | /r/hacking | 17 Sep 2022

  I'm trying to go a different route with Stealth, my programmable peer-to-peer web browser that can offload and relay traffic intelligently - and with RetroKit, my WebKit fork that aims to remove all JavaScript APIs that can be used for fingerprinting and/or tracking.

• Ask HN: How you would redesign a web browser?
  1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 14 Feb 2022
• No-JavaScript Fingerprinting
  4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Feb 2022

  Note that among a sea of tracked browsers, the untrackable browser shines like a bright star.

  Statistical analysis of these values over time (matched with client hints, ETags, If-Modified-Since, and IPs) will make most browsers uniquely identifiable.

  If the malicious vendor is good, they even correlate the size and order of requests. Because that's unique as well and can identify TOR browsers pretty easily.

  It's like saying "I can't be tracked, because I use Linux". Guess what, as long as nobody in your town uses Linux, you are the most trackable person.

  I decided to go with the "behave as the statistical norm expects you to behave" and created my browser/scraper [1] and forked WebKit into a webview [2] that doesn't support anything that can be used for tracking; with the idea that those tracking features can be shimmed and faked.

  I personally think this is the only way to be untrackable these days. Because let's be honest, nobody uses Firefox with ETP in my town anymore :(

  WebKit was a good start of this because at least some of the features were implemented behind compiler flags...whereas all other browsers and engines can't be built without say, WebRTC support, or say, without Audio Worklets which are for themselves enough to be uniquely identified.

  [1] https://github.com/tholian-network/stealth

  [2] https://github.com/tholian-network/retrokit

  (both WIP)

• We Have A Browser Monopoly Again and Firefox is The Only Alternative Out There
  6 projects | /r/programming | 1 Jan 2022

  Currently my primary motivation factor is my own Browser Stealth that I'm building; and due to lack of alternatives.

• Tholian® Stealth - Secure, Peer-to-Peer, Private and Automatable Web Browser/Scraper/Proxy for the Web of Truth and Knowledge. Goals: increased Privacy, increased Automation, adaptive Semantic Understanding. Web Scraper + Web Service + Web Proxy
  1 project | /r/AltTech | 21 Oct 2021
• Pirate Party member: GDPR-compliant Whois will lead to 'doxxing and death lists'
  3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Oct 2021

  I'm building a peer to peer Browser network that relies on trust ratios/factor in order to find out the seed/leech ratio of sharing content, producing content etc.

  The problem I'm currently trying to solve is that I had the idea to have a vendor profile that contains the necessary information for IP ranges (ASN, organization, region, country, ISP/NAT etc) so that the discovery service for that doesn't have to do this.

  It's like the basic idea of an offline "map of the internet" that should be an approximation of who does what in which amount of data (e.g. data center IPs aren't trustworthy or same ISP-NATed IP could be censored the same when it comes to blocked websites etc).

  At this point it's a big experiment and I'm not sure whether I'm fundamentally wrong about this as I don't have any data to back it up.

  If you're curious, it's part of the Stealth Browser I'm building [1] and [2]

  [1] https://github.com/tholian-network/stealth

  [2] https://github.com/tholian-network/stealth-vendor

• A climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address
  3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 5 Sep 2021

  > Does anyone here have a feasible way to solve this?

  Current solutions like TOR, I2P, VPNs and/or mobile proxy services are just a matter of time and legality until they come obsolete.

  TOR and I2P are worth a shit if everybody knows it was a TOR exit node, and cloudflare shows you tracking captchas anyways.

  Same for VPNs and mobile proxies, most are known due to their static IP ranges. Note that most mobile proxy services actually use malware installed on smartphones, so technically you're helping the blackhats by using them, and technically if the federal agencies find out you are probably in some lawsuits filed as an anonymous party that helped them DDoS a victim party.

  I am convinced that the only way to solve this is by simply not downloading the website from its origin. The origin tracks you, so don't talk to them. Talk to your peers and receive a ledged copy of it instead.

  The only problem is that this contradicts all that came after Web 2.0, because every website _wants_ unique identities for every person visiting them; including ETag-based tracking mechanisms of CDNs.

  I think it's not possible with supporting Web Browser APIs the same way in JavaScript (as of now, due to fetch and XHR and how WebSockets are abused for HDCP/DRM to prevent caching), but I think that a static website delivering network with a trustless cryptography based peer-to-peer end-to-end encrypted statistically-correct cache is certainly feasible. I believe that because that's exactly what I'm building for the last two years [1].

  [1] https://github.com/tholian-network/stealth

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