metal-cpp VS pldb

My understanding is the proliferation of “XYZ-cpp” AI frameworks is due to the c++ support in Apple’s gpu library ‘Metal’, and the popularity of apple silicon for inference (and there are a few technical reasons for this): https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/

This is basically also what the "official" C++ API for Metal does (https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/), it's an automatically generated bindings wrapper which calls into ObjC runtime functions.

I also dabbled a bit with this idea by parsing clang AST-dumps of macOS system headers:

https://github.com/floooh/objc-ast-experiments

Unfortunately this is very brittle, and also broke on ARM CPUs, I guess the shim code needs some ABI adjustments (famously, objc_msgSend has multiple "ABI shapes": https://www.mikeash.com/pyblog/objc_msgsends-new-prototype.h...).

There's official C++-interface: https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/

It doesn't matter if the project driven by Microsoft or not, the cat (of automatically generated language bindings) is out of the bag. E.g. Zig is using the same approach without being an official MS project: https://github.com/marlersoft/zigwin32, and Apple has an automatically generated C++ API for Metal (https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/).

In the future, the question won't be "what language do I need to learn to code on this platform", but instead "are there language bindings for my favourite language".

this? https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/

Doesn't it just use objc/runtime.h and if anything is missing you can just add your custom api calls?

Metal has C++ bindings (which cover a full app lifecycle so you don’t have to touch Objective-C/Swift at all) but they’re based on the Objective-C memory model. There are some helper structs mimicking shared pointers, but you’ll still need to understand the basics of how an autorelease pool is used to avoid memory leaks and/or bad access crashes.

On https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/ check Foundation folder and all those nice Object::sendMessage().

pldb.pub

How does it compare to https://pldb.com ?

Good Catch!

Updated here: https://github.com/breck7/pldb/commit/312d5dab32fda3782e8466...

We had this but the title was set to "xtclang". Just fixed (https://github.com/breck7/pldb/commit/1673baa00e5d44e7fd8ac9564480d6301063aa25). Thank you!

Don't have time to install but I would pay $10 in NEAR coin if you can email or post the results of my repos to me ([email protected]):

https://github.com/breck7/jtree and https://github.com/breck7/pldb

Interesting! I built a new system from the ground up for this sort of thing called TreeBase. It powers PLDB.com (https://github.com/breck7/pldb).

I don't have much experience using GraphQL. Is it a fun language to use? I wonder if we should provide a GraphQL API to PLDB.

Ok. Thank you! I just swapped with your code: https://github.com/breck7/pldb/commit/42d5562583e18fd141b979b16d30a8a4d7c5619c

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