elm-ui VS gdnative

It's been a few years, but last time I built a non-trivial Elm app, I used elm-ui. Otherwise, I've used either vanilla CSS with the Meyer reset (am I dating myself?) or SCSS.

"clean" means you are used to it. ELM is a totally new language (not like JS and TS) based on a paradigm (functional programming) that you are probably not used to. And it is based on the ML type system (different from what you are used to). So it is a lot of new things at once. "Reinventing the wheel" is an unfortunate side-effect of using a different way to do things. Some things can be copied verbatim, some are totally different. Check out "elm-ui" (https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/mdgriffith/elm-ui/latest/) for a very different and refreshing view in UI code in ELM (that will appeal to the mostly-backend developers in your workplace).

I use Elm for my project. Once you accept thinking the way it wants you to, it's a delight to develop front-end with it.

Side advantage, Elm-UI frees you from CSS: https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/mdgriffith/elm-ui/late... it's like Tailwind but deeply intertwined with the language.

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The last advice I could give is to try elm-ui (https://github.com/mdgriffith/elm-ui) for your user interface. It's amazing how great that is compared to traditional ways of building a frontend layout.

The library elm-ui makes it easy to create a nice user interface. I am unaware of anything similar for Rust+WASM, so I would have been forced to deal with HTML and CSS.

There are several things named elm-ui. It's the author of a different library than what is usually understood when someone refers to elm-ui (which is https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/mdgriffith/elm-ui/late...)

Foregoing CSS all together by using a different approach to UI construction (elm-ui)

Right now I'm just using the built in from the UI library I used for the sake of ease as I didn't find a perfect solution and it seemed good enough for now: Github Link to source, which it looks like would classify your laptop as a tablet, whoops!

It's a little less standard use, but Godot has been used to build application guis, which could be paired with rust bindings to implement app logic. I can't speak to reproducibility/scalability, but Godot's ui is extremely solid, and I'd probably choose that over Bevy until Bevy's ui progress matures.

Adding onto this, I successfully written a game in Godot using gdnative / gdext. I started with a split approach using gdscript and rust for CPU intensive but found that the API layer was slow at transferring large amounts of data (serialization?). I ended up rewriting it in all rust and it worked like a charm. I was able to target native and web assembly, the web assembly was much slower but worked on the browser.

Check this: https://github.com/tomuxmon/bevy_roguelike if you are still into bevy. Scheduling is a bit bork and I have not found time to port it to latest bevy. But most of the systems should work fine(if used on latest bevy). But again. If you want faster result go with something like Godot. In fact, just go with Godot. It is mature, easy to start, no lock in(free and MIT license), a lot of learning material. Also with Godot you can also use Rust https://godot-rust.github.io/. Ditch Unity (do not have time to explain 😅). Have fun!

Bevy Godot-Rust

> Same for Godot.

While likely true that it's "Unlikely to ever be as supported" as the 4 officially supported languages[0] ("GDScript, C#, and, via its GDExtension technology, C and C++."), Godot's GDExtension technology is specifically intended for use in adding support for other languages.

The most relevant tracking issue for Rust is presumably:

* <https://github.com/godot-rust/gdnative/issues/824>

Which links to:

* <https://github.com/godot-rust/gdextension>

[0] https://docs.godotengine.org/en/4.0/getting_started/step_by_...

...Godot v3.x has Rust support via godot-rust and Godot v4.0 is released as of this month?

I was curious, and looked it up. Nothing built in, but there's an interesting project that works with godot: https://godot-rust.github.io/

There's people working on it: https://godot-rust.github.io/