Synapse VS dendrite

Compare Synapse vs dendrite and see what are their differences.

Synapse

Synapse: Matrix homeserver written in Python/Twisted. (by matrix-org)

dendrite

Dendrite is a second-generation Matrix homeserver written in Go! (by matrix-org)
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Synapse dendrite
368 42
11,720 5,505
- 0.9%
9.8 8.6
7 months ago 9 days ago
Python Go
Apache License 2.0 Apache License 2.0
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Synapse

Posts with mentions or reviews of Synapse. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-07-08.
  • Python Has Too Many Package Managers
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 8 Jul 2024
    when we did a comparison of package managers that lock dependencies, we wrote up some interesting notes at https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/11537#issuecomm...

    Notable omission in pip-tools which many are suggesting here as being simpler: it can't write requirements files for multiple environments/platforms without running it once for each of those environments and having one file for all of them.

    We settled on Poetry at the time but it has been quite unstable overall. Not so bad recently but there were a lot of issues/regressions with it over time.

    For this reason I am happy to see new takes on package management, hopefully some of these will have clearer wins over the others, where you have to spend ages trying to figure out which one will do what you need.

  • Organizing OpenStreetMap Mapping Parties
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 12 Apr 2024
    What are you thinking of here? Synapse has supported purging room history since 2016: https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/pull/911, and configurable data retention since 2019: https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/pull/5815.

    Meanwhile, Matrix has never needed the full room history to be synchronised - when a server joins a room, it typically only grabs the last 20 messages. (It does needs to grab all the key-value state about the room, although these days that happens gradually in the background).

    If you're wondering why Matrix implementations are often greedy on disk space, it's because they typically cache the key-value state aggressively (storing a snapshot of it for the room on a regular basis). However, that's just an implementation quirk; folks could absolutely come up with fancier datastructures to store it more efficiently; it's just not got to the top of anyone's todo list yet - things like performance and UX are considered much more important than disk usage right now.

  • GrapheneOS is moving off Matrix
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 21 Nov 2023
    some context re the Matrix isses, long history apparently: https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/14481#issuecomm...
  • Non-profit Matrix.org Foundation seems to be moving funds to for-profit Element
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 19 Nov 2023
    Why not Matrix? Here's one reason: it has incredibly hard-to-debug edge cases, and plenty of bugs. One of my favourites is the one where people are kicked out of your room at random, which was reported a year ago[0]. It wasn't fixed, however, because the head of the Matrix foundation (Matthew) presumably didn't like the issue being posted on Twitter.

    This is honestly really disappointing behaviour from a platform owner.

    [0]: https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/14481

  • The Future of Synapse and Dendrite
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Nov 2023
    > That doesn't make this situation any less bad to the rest of the community.

    How is the community suffering here? Let's say Element adds a bunch of baller stuff to their versions over the next few months and then closes the source. Can't the community just fork the last AGPL version? You might say, "well then no one can take the AGPL fork and make their own closed-source business", but do you want them to? Even if you do, they still can with the existing Apache-licensed version, just like Element is doing right now.

    You're arguing that Element will lose a lot of contributions, but TFA points out that despite being super open, the vast majority of contributions are still made by Element employees (which seems to be true [0]). It's not the case that Element is looking to monetize the (small) contributions of others, it is the case that others are looking to monetize the (huge) contributions of Element.

    And besides, aren't the MSCs the core of Matrix? It's already super possible to build your own compliant client and server.

    The situation is that Element needs money to keep developing the ecosystem. It would be cool if there were a big network of donors and contributions, but there isn't. You're essentially saying, "that's fine, go out of business then, and the community will keep developing the ecosystem", but that's not happening now, and it can still happen anyway with the Apache-licensed versions, which again people can still contribute to.

    [0]: https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/graphs/contributors

  • Synapse v1.95.0 Released
    1 project | /r/Boiling_Steam | 26 Oct 2023
  • Matrix Synapse how use python scripts?
    2 projects | /r/selfhosted | 6 Oct 2023
  • Synapse v1.91.2 Released
    1 project | /r/Boiling_Steam | 8 Sep 2023
  • Synapse v1.89.0 is out
    1 project | /r/Boiling_Steam | 3 Aug 2023
  • Synapse v1.88.0 is out
    1 project | /r/Boiling_Steam | 20 Jul 2023

dendrite

Posts with mentions or reviews of dendrite. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-10-08.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing Synapse and dendrite you can also consider the following projects:

conduit

synapse-admin - Admin console for synapse Matrix homeserver

Rocket.Chat - The communications platform that puts data protection first.

Jitsi Meet - Jitsi Meet - Secure, Simple and Scalable Video Conferences that you use as a standalone app or embed in your web application.

matrix-docker-ansible-deploy - 🐳 Matrix (An open network for secure, decentralized communication) server setup using Ansible and Docker

Mattermost - Mattermost is an open source platform for secure collaboration across the entire software development lifecycle..

Telegram-FOSS - Unofficial, FOSS-friendly fork of the original Telegram client for Android

Ligase - Ligase is a Golang-based implementation of Matrix homeserver, powered by finogeeks https://www.finogeeks.com/Finchat

Nextcloud - ☁️ Nextcloud server, a safe home for all your data

matrix-doc - Proposals for changes to the matrix specification [Moved to: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals]

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