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- Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by matrix
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Databag – tiny self-hosted federated messenger for the decentralized web
Matrix already has key-based identity in the works at https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/blob/keg... (and implemented in Dendrite at https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3A...). Matrix is set up to let folks go wild and change fundamentals like this; basically every Matrix Spec Change (MSC) is a small fork, which then gets merged into the main spec if it can be proven to work well in the wild.
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What's the easiest way to use Matrix and add matrix-bridges for Messenger, Instagram, and Telegram etc.
I really hope that Dendrite is getting more traction and maybe there's an OIDC solution for Matrix one day.
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Can Dendrite run on Kubernetes?
Yes there is an official helm chart. https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite/releases/tag/helm-dendrite-0.11.2
- suggestions on a self-hosted messaging server with end-to-end encryption for a small family
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Have any of you used a decentralized messenger before?
This is what the Matrix team is developing Dendrite for. To have a feature-complete yet small server software. But it's still in beta.
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Matrix 2.0 — Matthew Hodgson talks about Rust in Element client, Rust SDK, IETF MLS, MIMI and more
Pinecone, which is an experimental overlay routing protocol used by P2P Matrix. It and Dendrite are extremely important to P2P Matrix.
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How to generate keys for program like Dendrite
So I want to setup an instance of Dendrite, a matrix home server. I have a docker-compose set, the yaml file in the correct directory, but I do not understand how to generate the key files. the dockerhub states that I should use this:
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How should I set up a private chat server/client for my family ?
Dendrite, meanwhile, can be found here. They say it's in beta. I think it's a late Alpha. Dendrite's primary mode is "Monolith"; this will have many of the same scalability/balancing options that Synapse does. However the true benefit to Dendrite as I see it is the "polylith" mode where workers can swap around which worker is the master without any interruption of service. I do not think that Dendrite polylith works yet, but I might be wrong. I'll be looking at running it on a test server in January to see if it's time to upgrade from Synapse (and time to invest in 4-6 SBCs to keep three here and send 3 to 3 of my buddies to make my Matrix even more reliable).
conduit
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Advice for a small Matrix server
I'd like to suggest Conduit. I found it very easy to install and maintain. https://gitlab.com/famedly/conduit
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Matrix 2.0: How we’re making Matrix go voom
> "At least as standard" how?
There are 8 people who vote on changes to the Matrix spec (the Spec Core Team), 7 of which are Element employees (including Matthew, Element's CEO). Element also controls the development of clients and servers used by the large majority of users in the public federation.
> A substantial portion of the IRC comunity is actively hostile to the IRCv3 extensions, and in some cases prefer incompatible implementations of the same functionality; Matrix has nothing like that going on.
But any IRC client will work fine on any IRC server, and they can connect to various servers with different implementations.
On Matrix, clients (generally) can only connect to one homeserver at a time; which forces them to converge on following exactly the same spec. And if your server differs ever so slightly from the other ones in how it implements some parts of the spec (room consensus), then it can be split-brained from the rest of the federation. Instead, changes to the room consensus are done by pushing new room versions, and each server implementation needs to explicitly support it or they can't join it. This means Synapse devs (which are a majority of Element employees) get to decide what room versions can get traction.
It is not uncommon for people in the Matrix community to complain about this and Element keeping specs in limbo, and PRs to the flagship clients being stuck in "design review tar".
> And there seem to be more visibly independent implementations of Matrix than IRCv3.
Clients, maybe, at least in the number of implementation. It's hard to find stats of this, but I feel that >95% of people in the public federation use Element even in tech-y rooms; IRC has a healthier mix of major clients (weechat, irssi, IRCCloud, Hexchat, KiwiIRC, The Lounge each have >5% of desktop/web users). But I admit that's just my very subjective point of view.
In terms of servers, Matrix has three open source ones as far as I know: Synapse (controlled by Element), Dendrite (controlled by Element, and almost on par with Synapse according to https://arewep2pyet.com/ ), and Conduit. Based on https://gitlab.com/famedly/conduit/-/milestones/3 , Conduit seems to be far from implementing the spec yet (eg. it doesn't seem to support leaving rooms or respecting history visibility).
> things like: server-side history extensions tended to mess up my client's history implementation (I'd end up with multiple copies of the same messages in my local logs, often with the wrong timestamps)
You can use https://ircv3.net/specs/extensions/message-ids to deduplicate them.
> And if you're in a conversation where people are using embedded gifs, then fundamentally you'll always be a second-class citizen if you're trying to participate in that with a client that can't display embedded gifs.
A conversation where people where people are using embedded gifs will exclude me regardless of client, because they are too distracting. At least on IRC I can expect people not to do it too much, and use words or emojis instead of reaction gifs.
> SSO access control; you just can't do that in a nice way if the client doesn't support it
That's a fair point; IRC is made by hobbyists more than companies, so that's not surprising. There is some discussion around it though: https://github.com/ircv3/ircv3-ideas/issues/74 and Sourcehut is sponsoring implementation (https://emersion.fr/blog/2022/irc-and-oauth2/).
- Matrix conduit server takes forever to join channels
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Looking to deploy a Conduit Matrix server. Is it possible to make a server which does NOT require a domain?
To start, this will be strictly Non-Federated. Just a few friends will be using this. Here: https://gitlab.com/famedly/conduit/-/blob/next/DEPLOY.md is the documentation I am following. It tells me I must "use my server name", but what is this exactly? What do I put in there? Do I have to go out and buy a domain?
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Instant Messaging: XMPP or Websocket
Either Tinode (https://github.com/tinode/chat) or Matrix Protocol (https://gitlab.com/famedly/conduit)
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Planning to make a video on cool Rust apps focused on the end user. Make recommendations!
Matrix Protocol: Fractal (Client), Conduit (Server)
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Discord-esk encrypted platform?
If self-hosting is an option then I'd say Matrix, you can try Conduit (server) and Elements(client). To simplify deployment you can refer to this repo.
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anyone using rust in production? what do you do?
You can babble on and on about how its not how you do it, no one needs it, etc... But its a demonstrable need in this space and its caused me great pain trying to write applications that would be used by such people. It's even bit Conduit to the point they have 5+ DB backends coded in now that the user can choose between based on their local system setups.
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Given my server's specs, can I handle Matrix/Synapse?
Give Conduit a try. It uses way less memory than Synapse. It is still in early stages but works great. I have been running one on a Pi4 for like a year, going great so far.
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Is there an example app that uses Sled database in Rust?
There's a Rust implementation of a Matrix server that uses sled: https://gitlab.com/famedly/conduit/
What are some alternatives?
Synapse - Synapse: Matrix homeserver written in Python/Twisted.
synapse-admin - https://hub.docker.com/r/awesometechnologies/synapse-admin
gomuks - A terminal based Matrix client written in Go.
matrix-docker-ansible-deploy - 🐳 Matrix (An open network for secure, decentralized communication) server setup using Ansible and Docker
matrix-rust-sdk - Matrix Client-Server SDK for Rust
Telegram-FOSS - Unofficial, FOSS-friendly fork of the original Telegram client for Android
fluffychat
Ligase - Ligase is a Golang-based implementation of Matrix homeserver, powered by finogeeks https://www.finogeeks.com/Finchat
matrix.to - A simple stateless privacy-protecting URL redirecting service for Matrix
matrix-doc - Proposals for changes to the matrix specification [Moved to: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals]
matrix-doc - Matrix Documentation (including The Spec)