Quasar Framework VS egui

What does this bring that the Quasar framework doesn’t already? This sure looks like an ad for a barely preconfigured quasar template—but it’s impossible to tell.

https://quasar.dev/

I'm for Vue/Nuxt. While reading React code is fine, I found it easy to shoot myself in the foot (causing circular effects or getting no reactivity) in a way Vue didn't. Vue feels more explicit. I like React's TSX for embedding HTML, but Vue's splitting of model and view appeals to me. I'm torn on that one.

Vue's ecosystem isn't as big, but it's an established framework. Both React and Vue feel easier to work with than Angular. RxJS is really cool, but also very comprehensive, making it difficult to keep the entire API in mind. At least for me, who only use it casually (used to use it more while at Google.) And on top of that, I have to know the Angular API. Angular used to be great for Material Design, but I nowadays there are MD packages for all systems.

Nuxt is for Vue what Next is for React: SSR and SSG. It adds auto-imports, which is nice. At this point, I see no reason to use Vue alone, since there's always something that can be pre-rendered. Perhaps the frontpage, or help pages. Since Vue itself provides entrypoints for SSR, Nuxt is more of a file-structure based router that just simplifies things. The documentation is a bit sparse on e.g. the difference between a plugin and a module, and I usually resort to navigating their source to understand things. That might not be everyone's cup of tea.

If what you're writing is a web app, there is also Quasar, built on top of Vue. Similar to Nuxt in that it ties in directory structure, build system and MVC framework. It is also a Material Design UI widget library. Their selling point is that you can build mobile apps, and web apps with the same library. I.e. like React Native. I felt it strays too far away from the core simplicity of Vue, unlike Nuxt, but it's no doubt a very capable framework.

Finally, I'm currently using PrimeVue as the UI widget/theming library on top of Vue. It's okay. :\ Switched to it when the Vue Bootstrap project decided to to support Vue 3 (or whatever the situation was.) I haven't come across anything that's actively broken or missing. The companion library PrimeFlex provides layout CSS. Annoyingly, they've decided to close GitHub FRs, and some (far from all) bugs, and just keep track of them internally. Makes it more dificult to communicate, but I don't know their reasoning behind it (they didn't respond when I asked.)

* https://vuejs.org/

* https://nuxt.com/

* https://vitejs.dev/

* https://primevue.org/

* https://primeflex.org/

* https://quasar.dev/

3. Quasar Quasar is a versatile UI framework that allows you to build responsive websites, mobile apps, and desktop applications using a single codebase. It offers a wide range of components and utilities. Explore the Quasar website for more information.

My project is a quasar project that’s served on port 8080. However, I keep getting the following error in the log:

Quasar: It does not consider itself a library, but more of a framework. That, in my eyes is a bit confusing as it is based on Vue, but the idea is that you can use it to create websites and apps, meaning it uses a CLI to generate different outputs for web, mobile, desktop, SPA (Single Page Apps), SSR (Server Side Rendering), and more.

What did you download? Anything to do with this? https://quasar.dev/

I am an amateur developer and I use exclusively Vue and Quasar (https://quasar.dev/) as my framework. This is a big hammer and any frontend dev looks like a nail to me.

Quasar - https://quasar.dev/ - makes getting into an opinionated Vue setup painless

Check out https://quasar.dev/ :)

Thanks for the feedback!

It is definitely fixable. Take a look at https://github.com/emilk/egui/issues/996 for some examples of how others have styled egui, or try out https://app.rerun.io/

Styling is done with `ctx.set_style`, but creating a nice style isn't very easy at the moment (basically you'll have to tweak constants in code, and then recompile). I'm working on making it easier as we speak though!

Nothing is wrong with that, it’s rather a workaround, ultimately I am trying to have one language only including the UI too (been playing with egui),so I don’t have to use JavaScript.

https://github.com/emilk/egui

FWIW, I opened an issue: https://github.com/emilk/egui/issues/4046

That's fair. I don't have experience with other immediate mode libraries. It's good to hear that it's not an intrinsic limitation

https://github.com/emilk/egui?tab=readme-ov-file#layout Here the author discusses the issue directly. They note that there are solutions to the issue, but that they all come with (in their opinion) significant drawbacks.

For my use case, if I have to do a lot of manual work to achieve what I consider behavior that should be handled by the framework, then I don't find that compelling and am inclined to use a retained mode implementation.

It totally depends on what IoT and what purpose, for example:

IIoT/PLC/industrial automation: most likely you will have to use vendors software, most if the time it’s crap, and a mix of several tech stacks like MSSQL/C#/C++

Sensors and such: depends on what are you building or using the sensors: the protocol mostly is MQTT, and if you would store it in a db postrrsql, elasticsearch, surreldb, influxdb among the most I used.

Robots/drones: on what I build, I use protobuf/grpc for performance and cross-language and direct linux socket io, and where needed websocket but mostly for any web interaction rather than the protocol itself. The tech stack for those, the embedded side is up to you or sometimes based on the sdk you are dealing with, the backend/frontend however, I used to use go/nodejs and for frontend svelte or a simple js library/framework, but recently I’m shifting and redoing everything in rust, embedded, backend and frontend (using something like egui https://github.com/emilk/egui).

When it comes to IoT, I try as much as possible to stay away from python unless you are scripting something else done in go/c++/rust, look at python as a glorified bash script, it’s useful for that or other data science work, but not in IoT.

Same goes with other tech you mentioned, it might suit one case but not another, for example, MQTT is good for sensor IoT type, but good luck controlling a drone with it, mongodb might be great to store a fleet of robots with its access credentials and such, but if you try to use it to store realtime data, it might not perform as expected, and so on.

AFAIK the Rust equivalent to C++'s Dear ImGui is egui.

The creator of Rerun (Emil Ernerfeldt) also created egui [1], an immediate GUI library for Rust. The library is similar to Dear ImGui but it is written in Rust and can be used for desktop and web apps (compiles to WASM and uses WebGL, demo [2]). Desktop apps can target OpenGL (does not display correct colors on macOS, does not work in VirtualBox on Windows) or WGPU (uses native APIs for each platform, works without any problems, but the binary is a big larger).

[1] https://github.com/emilk/egui

> [...] you can build UIs that are snappy and keyboard driven.

That's not an advantage that is exclusive to TUIs; after all, you're running your TUI inside a graphical application that emulates a terminal. (Unless you're rocking an actual VT102, in which case I bow down to you.)

In fact there's an entire class of applications that are extremely snappy and keyboard driven, by their very nature: games.

Some people have taken to writing GUI apps like you'd write a game, and the effects range from OK to fantastic. Check out Lagrange (https://gmi.skyjake.fi/lagrange/), AppManager (https://tildegit.org/solene/AppManager), Dear ImGUI (https://github.com/ocornut/imgui), egui (https://github.com/emilk/egui), and many others.

Honestly, frontend development especially with all these crowded frameworks and libraries always confused me so pardon my ignorance, which is why in a project I’m working on right now I’m trying not to use js, instead I’m using egui [1]

Zola is a static site generator and it’s crazy fast, using one binary only [2], also there’s Blades [3], same concept but supposedly faster, never tried it though.

[1] https://github.com/emilk/egui

[2] https://www.getzola.org

[3] https://getblades.org