project-error-handling VS rust

This actually is an example of where the compiler errors could (or should have) maybe provided more help or even the potential solution, it might be worth submitting this to the error handling group.

If anyone's interested in helping to shape the future of Rust's built-in error-handling story, there's an error handling project group that's been doing great work recently, e.g. the major effort to move the Error trait into libcore ( https://github.com/rust-lang/project-error-handling/issues/3 ) and stabilizing std::backtrace. You can follow along or get involved via the #project-error-handling channel on the Rust zulip: https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/

Getting it into alloc would enable usage in a LOT more contexts, like WASM and kernel code. Does this need a distinct tracking issue outside the ticket for moving it to core or would that just add more administrata?

without trolling https://github.com/rust-lang/project-error-handling exist and is far from having strong conclusion and anyway I will always favor enum Error anyway however I like the idea to have a opaque box in the enum for "this is a opaque error you can't deal with as a user of my api"

IIRC, the Error Handling Project Group is aware of these ideas. If this kind of thing interests you and you want to contribute, you should look into getting involved with that group.

> you should have the underlying message of the std::io::Error

This is a point of debate[1] among the error-handling working group.

[1]: https://github.com/rust-lang/project-error-handling/issues/4...

Focusing on good error messages has permeated throughout the community. There's even the Error Handling Project Group if you weren't convinced how committed the language designers are to getting this right. There are a number of techniques we can use to make our errors more informative. Along the way, we will discuss the crates that can help.

The Error Handling Working Group is looking at potential breaking changes for embedded users. Maybe you could work within that group?

> There are online Rust compilers and interpreters already if you just want to rapid prototype and develop ideas in Rust

You are responding to one of the key developers of Rust early on[1], who's been working with the language for 14 years at that point.

[1] https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/graphs/contributors?from=2... and he's still #16 in commits overall today, despite almost no activity on the rust compiler since 2014.

If you haven't dipped your touch-typing fingers into Rust yet, you really owe it to yourself. Rust is a modern programming language with features that make it suitable not only for systems programming -- its original purpose, but just about any other environment, too; there are frameworks that let your build web services, web applications including user interfaces, software for embedded devices, machine learning solutions, and of course, command-line tools. Since a custom GitHub Action is essentially a command-line tool that interacts with the system through files and environment variables, Rust is perfectly suited for that as well.

Here's an example of someone citing a disagreement between CRT and shell32:

https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/44650

This in addition to the Rust CVE mentioned elsewhere in the thread which was rooted in this issue:

https://blog.rust-lang.org/2024/04/09/cve-2024-24576.html

Here are some quick programs to test contrasting approaches. I don't have examples of inputs where they parse differently on hand right now, but I know they exist. This was also a problem that was frequently discussed internally when I worked at MSFT.

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> instead of choosing a certain numbered version of the random library (if I remember correctly) I let cargo download the latest version which had a completely different API.

Yeah, they didn't follow the instructions and got burned. I still think that multiple things went wrong simultaneously for that experience. I wonder if more prevalent uses of `#[doc(alias = "name")]` being leveraged by https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/120730 (which now that I check only accounts for methods and not functions, I should get on that!) so that when changing APIs around people at least get a slightly better experience.

Almost fixed the compiler: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/123325

Rust: A secure, efficient, and modern programming language (omitting ten thousand words). You can simply follow the installation instructions provided on the official website.

Recently did something similar in Rust but for generating SVGs. We've adopted it for snapshot testing of cargo and rustc's output. Don't have a good PR handy for showing Github's rendering of changes in the SVG (text, side-by-side, swiping) but https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/121877/files has newly added SVGs.

To see what is supported, see the screenshot in the docs: https://docs.rs/anstyle-svg/latest/anstyle_svg/

We strongly believe in Rust as a powerful language for building production-grade software, especially for systems like ours that run alongside Kubernetes.