openscad-graph-editor
nodezator
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openscad-graph-editor
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Ask HN: Modern Day Equivalent to HyperCard?
I really wish Livecode hadn't pulled their opensource/Community Edition (and I'd be very glad for someone to do something with that code).
Gambas is something I keep wanting to try and seems promising.
I did one small app w/ Python and TKinter, but it was a dense wall of text/code when I was finished and not something I was interested in revisiting. I keep seeing suggestions that Python w/ QT support is supposed to be quite good.
One unlikely option is Google's Blockly (which I wish had a stand-alone desktop implementation which would make graphical programs), which has a nifty version implementing OpenSCAD:
https://www.blockscad3d.com/editor/
which I've used a fair bit. Moving on from there, there is: https://github.com/derkork/openscad-graph-editor which has the advantage of encompassing the entirety of OpenSCAD. It's also possible to wrap up Python using PythonSCAD.org
If you're willing to consider other node/line connection systems two promising options are:
https://ryven.org/
and
https://nodezator.com/
What sort of coding, on what sort of projects do you want to do?
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PSChess – A Chess Engine in PostScript
The Cube was a gift, and the PS work didn't go that far.
I found PS pretty inscrutable, esp. the function-filled variant used in Virtuoso, but did manage to get dimension lines coded up (which promptly ran into precision problems which I eventually gave up on).
OpenSCAD is a lot more approachable, and METAPOST was easy to pick up and make use of:
http://ftp.tug.org/TUGboat/tb40-2/tb125adams-3d.pdf
Still working through this at:
https://willadams.gitbook.io/design-into-3d/3d-project
and mostly using visual tools (which arguably is limiting me) https://www.blockscad3d.com/editor/ and https://github.com/derkork/openscad-graph-editor and of course, had to throw: http://pythonscad.org/ into the mix. Still a bit miffed that Nodebox and Processing or maker.js weren't a good fit.
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Show HN: Flyde – an open-source visual programming language
As a visual person (traditionally trained as a graphic artist), I've wanted this sort of thing for a long while, and I've been trying to use it for 3D.
Surprisingly, there are multiple specialized tools for this:
- https://www.blockscad3d.com --- an adaptation of Google's Blockly to OpenSCAD
- https://github.com/derkork/openscad-graph-editor --- wires and nodes, it has the advantage of exposing _all_ of OpenSCAD's commands (the above has a subset)
- https://github.com/Tanneguydv/Pythonocc-nodes-for-Ryven --- a module for using PythonOCC in Ryven --- when I finally succeeded, I found the language inscrutable, even when provided w/ quite nice examples (definitely a failing on my part, not that of the tool)
- https://github.com/graphscad/graphscad --- it took a long while for the source code for this to be made available, and for a while it had compatibility problems (why was "cube" redefined?) --- probably defunct for political reasons, it had some interesting ideas, in particular the ability to have custom icons for modules
- https://www.nodebox.net --- if memory serves I got hung up by not easily being able to do 3D, and when doing 2D having precision problems (or maybe that was Processing.org)
and I've been using these tools to make various things:
https://willadams.gitbook.io/design-into-3d/3d-project
(and maybe eventually I'll finish something)
The problem I've been running into is there doesn't seem to be an answer to the question:
"What does an algorithm look like?"
I recently had occasion to mention Herman Hesse's _The Glass Bead Game_ (also published as _Magister Ludi_) and I'll bring it up again --- what is a meaningful graphical representation of a program?
The Drakon folks argued that there should be one true path but that's not really communicative and I would note that if this was a simple thing it wouldn't be decades since I last saw a physical Flowcharting Template:
https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/object-groups/flo...
(and it's pretty rare to even see a well-done electronic drawing of a flowchart since Visio made its splash and vanished into the bowels of Microsoft)
The main problem seems to be one of expressiveness not scaling up well, hence:
https://blueprintsfromhell.tumblr.com/
https://scriptsofanotherdimension.tumblr.com/
Presumably, one doesn't want to define modules/variables unnecessarily --- but the question becomes where is that boundary?
If you define too many, then you're back to the "wall of text" which one was trying to avoid (but wrapped up in nice boxes with some lines or shapes), and if one doesn't use them (well, look at the pretty/awful images in the links above).
Ideally, a well-coded visual program would have a pleasing aesthetic appearance which is expressive and communicates flow and function, and I've tried for that at:
https://willadams.gitbook.io/design-into-3d/programming
(though I wish that there was an easy way to export an SVG version of a program)
I believe that what is needed here is some graphical equivalent to Literate Programming: http://literateprogramming.com
Is there a nice GUI toolkit integration which would allow making a graphical application with this? I have an idea I want to try it which might be a good fit.
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Was BASIC that horrible or better?
_That_ is a question I want an answer for.
Currently I am using OpenSCAD Graph Editor: https://github.com/derkork/openscad-graph-editor to create programs:
https://willadams.gitbook.io/design-into-3d/programming#open...
but the fundamental question which remains unanswered is:
>What does an algorithm look like?
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FullControl: Unconstrained gcode design for 3D printers
Interesting.
I've long been frustrated by traditional CAD/CAM, so finally worked up:
https://github.com/WillAdams/gcodepreview
which allows me to use:
http://pythonscad.org/
and:
https://github.com/derkork/openscad-graph-editor
to create joinery:
https://forum.makerforums.info/t/openscad-and-python-looking...
which would otherwise be tedious to draw up:
https://community.carbide3d.com/t/creating-drawers/19475/26
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How to draw beautiful software architecture diagrams
Yes, unless you're a visually oriented person like myself who is trying to do the programming visually.
I use:
https://github.com/derkork/openscad-graph-editor
to try to design woodworking projects:
https://forum.makerforums.info/t/openscad-and-python-looking...
and I'd like to think that I'm managing to keep the visual appearance sufficiently expressive that it is easier to work with than a traditional textual code representation --- jury is still out on that, we'll see when I start re-purposing what I'm working on for odd/even sides, and then then doing the horizontal version of the joinery.
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Visual Node Graph with ImGui
The problem here is that a fundamental question has not been answered, and as far as I can tell, has not been addressed by any of these visual environments:
What does an algorithm look like?
Herman Hesse alluded to this in his novel _The Glass Bead Game_, but despite decades of discussion and work, no one has made a convincing pysical representation of that system.
I love the concept, and have made some moderately complex attempts, e.g.,:
https://www.blockscad3d.com/community/projects/1430644
https://github.com/WillAdams/gcodepreview
it always devolves to screen size being out-paced by problem complexity --- one gets something of an inkling of this at:
https://scriptsofanotherdimension.tumblr.com/
Alternately, one can just break a project down into modules, but then the top-level view becomes the wall of text representation (albeit w/ nice lines or captured into pretty boxes) which one is ostensibly trying to escape.
I'd love to see someone succeed in this, and I've been using:
https://github.com/derkork/openscad-graph-editor
quite a bit, and put a bit of money towards:
http://nodezator.com/
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RPG in a Box: A grid-based, voxel-style game engine built on Godot
I have been very pleased w/ and impressed by:
https://github.com/derkork/openscad-graph-editor
and really want to look deeper into it to see if it could be forked to create a version which creates Python code.
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Godot 4.1 Is Released
Yes.
OpenSCAD Graph Editor is done with an earlier version and runs on Mac OS, Windows, and Linux:
https://github.com/derkork/openscad-graph-editor
- My attempt to make blockly based cad modellor
nodezator
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Ask HN: Modern Day Equivalent to HyperCard?
I really wish Livecode hadn't pulled their opensource/Community Edition (and I'd be very glad for someone to do something with that code).
Gambas is something I keep wanting to try and seems promising.
I did one small app w/ Python and TKinter, but it was a dense wall of text/code when I was finished and not something I was interested in revisiting. I keep seeing suggestions that Python w/ QT support is supposed to be quite good.
One unlikely option is Google's Blockly (which I wish had a stand-alone desktop implementation which would make graphical programs), which has a nifty version implementing OpenSCAD:
https://www.blockscad3d.com/editor/
which I've used a fair bit. Moving on from there, there is: https://github.com/derkork/openscad-graph-editor which has the advantage of encompassing the entirety of OpenSCAD. It's also possible to wrap up Python using PythonSCAD.org
If you're willing to consider other node/line connection systems two promising options are:
https://ryven.org/
and
https://nodezator.com/
What sort of coding, on what sort of projects do you want to do?
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Visual Node Graph with ImGui
The problem here is that a fundamental question has not been answered, and as far as I can tell, has not been addressed by any of these visual environments:
What does an algorithm look like?
Herman Hesse alluded to this in his novel _The Glass Bead Game_, but despite decades of discussion and work, no one has made a convincing pysical representation of that system.
I love the concept, and have made some moderately complex attempts, e.g.,:
https://www.blockscad3d.com/community/projects/1430644
https://github.com/WillAdams/gcodepreview
it always devolves to screen size being out-paced by problem complexity --- one gets something of an inkling of this at:
https://scriptsofanotherdimension.tumblr.com/
Alternately, one can just break a project down into modules, but then the top-level view becomes the wall of text representation (albeit w/ nice lines or captured into pretty boxes) which one is ostensibly trying to escape.
I'd love to see someone succeed in this, and I've been using:
https://github.com/derkork/openscad-graph-editor
quite a bit, and put a bit of money towards:
http://nodezator.com/
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Nodezator v1.4 released! (Python node editor in the public domain)
https://nodezator.com (app website, work in progress)
- Would PyGame work for creating a interactive graph theory graph?
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Game prototype (platformer) made with pygame
Some of the code (after being refactored/improved) and many of the lessons I gained from my experience developing this prototype can be seen in my most recent and more mature app, nodezator, which uses pygame as well.
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Scratch Is a Big Deal
I prefer this sort of programming system.
Mostly these days I do 3D modeling, so I'm using a Blockly version of OpenSCAD:
https://www.blockscad3d.com/editor/
but I'd really like to see a nice, stand-alone desktop development environment like to Scratch which isn't encumbered by a sandbox and which is able to write and append to local files and which is easily installed and which runs reliably.
Crashed and burned on pyFlow, Ryven, GraphSCAD, and a bunch of others.
Currently hoping that Nodezator (a node programming system based on pygame) will pan out --- it just needs branches and loops for my purposes:
http://nodezator.com
In the meanwhile, I'm copying OpenSCAD code out of BlockSCAD and pasting it into RapCAD:
https://forum.makerforums.info/t/g-code-preview-using-opensc...
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Matplotlib example nodes available on github (link on comments)
Nodezator is out since last weekend! Install instructions on https://github.com/KennedyRichard/nodezator and manual on https://manual.nodezator.com Nodes from matplotlib demonstration available on https://github.com/KennedyRichard/matplotlib_example_node_pack Don't forget to install matplotlib as well to load the nodes properly.
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After 0.20 is out, what do you still miss in FreeCAD?
I'd like to see one accepted and installed by default and easily used and nicely integrated --- perhaps some other tool should be tried --- I've been working w/ Nodezator: http://nodezator.com/ and it has the advantage of making quite straight-forward Python3 code.
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Nodezator: Python node editor released to public domain on pypi.org and github
Installations instructions and download on this github link.
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Nodezator: new Python node editor released to public domain on pypi.org and github
If you have ideas/suggestions/concerns/constructive criticism you can share your thoughs on https://github.com/KennedyRichard/nodezator/discussions
What are some alternatives?
gcodepreview - OpenSCAD library for moving a tool in lines and arcs so as to model how a part would be cut using G-Code.
A2plus - Another assembly workbench for FreeCAD, following and extending Hamish's Assembly 2 workbench
gdsdecomp - Godot reverse engineering tools
scheme-bricks - experimental visual programming in scheme for making rave music, uses fluxus
Godot - Godot Engine – Multi-platform 2D and 3D game engine
DearPyGui - Dear PyGui: A fast and powerful Graphical User Interface Toolkit for Python with minimal dependencies
GoDotTest - C# test runner for Godot. Run tests from the command line, collect code coverage, and debug tests.
takeoff
jsketcher - Parametric 2D and 3D modeler written in pure javascript
PyBlox - A python interface for accessing NetsBlox
luxtorpeda - Steam Play compatibility tool to run games using native Linux engines
matplotlib_example_node_pack - Example node pack with nodes using matplotlib