nodezator VS PyBlox

I really wish Livecode hadn't pulled their opensource/Community Edition (and I'd be very glad for someone to do something with that code).

Gambas is something I keep wanting to try and seems promising.

I did one small app w/ Python and TKinter, but it was a dense wall of text/code when I was finished and not something I was interested in revisiting. I keep seeing suggestions that Python w/ QT support is supposed to be quite good.

One unlikely option is Google's Blockly (which I wish had a stand-alone desktop implementation which would make graphical programs), which has a nifty version implementing OpenSCAD:

https://www.blockscad3d.com/editor/

which I've used a fair bit. Moving on from there, there is: https://github.com/derkork/openscad-graph-editor which has the advantage of encompassing the entirety of OpenSCAD. It's also possible to wrap up Python using PythonSCAD.org

If you're willing to consider other node/line connection systems two promising options are:

https://ryven.org/

and

https://nodezator.com/

What sort of coding, on what sort of projects do you want to do?

The problem here is that a fundamental question has not been answered, and as far as I can tell, has not been addressed by any of these visual environments:

What does an algorithm look like?

Herman Hesse alluded to this in his novel _The Glass Bead Game_, but despite decades of discussion and work, no one has made a convincing pysical representation of that system.

I love the concept, and have made some moderately complex attempts, e.g.,:

https://www.blockscad3d.com/community/projects/1430644

https://github.com/WillAdams/gcodepreview

it always devolves to screen size being out-paced by problem complexity --- one gets something of an inkling of this at:

https://scriptsofanotherdimension.tumblr.com/

Alternately, one can just break a project down into modules, but then the top-level view becomes the wall of text representation (albeit w/ nice lines or captured into pretty boxes) which one is ostensibly trying to escape.

I'd love to see someone succeed in this, and I've been using:

https://github.com/derkork/openscad-graph-editor

quite a bit, and put a bit of money towards:

http://nodezator.com/

https://nodezator.com (app website, work in progress)

Some of the code (after being refactored/improved) and many of the lessons I gained from my experience developing this prototype can be seen in my most recent and more mature app, nodezator, which uses pygame as well.

I prefer this sort of programming system.

Mostly these days I do 3D modeling, so I'm using a Blockly version of OpenSCAD:

https://www.blockscad3d.com/editor/

but I'd really like to see a nice, stand-alone desktop development environment like to Scratch which isn't encumbered by a sandbox and which is able to write and append to local files and which is easily installed and which runs reliably.

Crashed and burned on pyFlow, Ryven, GraphSCAD, and a bunch of others.

Currently hoping that Nodezator (a node programming system based on pygame) will pan out --- it just needs branches and loops for my purposes:

http://nodezator.com

In the meanwhile, I'm copying OpenSCAD code out of BlockSCAD and pasting it into RapCAD:

https://forum.makerforums.info/t/g-code-preview-using-opensc...

Nodezator is out since last weekend! Install instructions on https://github.com/KennedyRichard/nodezator and manual on https://manual.nodezator.com Nodes from matplotlib demonstration available on https://github.com/KennedyRichard/matplotlib_example_node_pack Don't forget to install matplotlib as well to load the nodes properly.

I'd like to see one accepted and installed by default and easily used and nicely integrated --- perhaps some other tool should be tried --- I've been working w/ Nodezator: http://nodezator.com/ and it has the advantage of making quite straight-forward Python3 code.

Installations instructions and download on this github link.

If you have ideas/suggestions/concerns/constructive criticism you can share your thoughs on https://github.com/KennedyRichard/nodezator/discussions

Another student in the lab I'm in has been working on something [0] to bridge between a Snap!-like environment (so, very similar to Scratch) to Python, complete with retaining the concept of sprites having separate code with event handlers and using blocks they'll recognize for sniplets they can drag in to get code that implements the same functionality. I believe it also allows importing of projects made with blocks, although I'm not sure if that's currently available.

https://github.com/dragazo/PyBlox