mathesar VS Svelte

Congratulations on launching, it's nice to see more open source products in this area (I work on https://mathesar.org/). Feel free to reach out if you'd like to talk and compare notes.

This is what we're trying to do with [Mathesar](https://github.com/centerofci/mathesar). We probably don't meet your needs yet because we don't support real-time concurrent editing, but we're actively working on the project and it is early days.

I'm an engineer on the Mathesar core team and I'd just like to clarify that Mathesar does support grouping to some extent. Here is a screenshot[1] that demonstrates the grouping functionality. Grouping levels are unlimited. You can play with this functionality on our live demo[2]. It's worth mentioning that Mathesar does not yet have the capability to expand and collapse groups, but that feature is planned[3].

Best of luck building Visual DB! Nice to see more innovation in this space!

[1]: https://mathesar.org/assets/crm-table-zoomed.png

[2]: https://demo.mathesar.org/

[3]: https://github.com/centerofci/mathesar/issues/475

I’m not sure if it’s okay to plug my project, but I work on Mathesar (https://github.com/centerofci/mathesar) which can be used as a Postgres GUI. We’re putting a lot of product/design effort into making it nice to use for non technical users.

Otherwise, I just use the command line.

We're trying to do this with Mathesar: https://github.com/centerofci/mathesar. Some feedback would be great!

We're trying to build a community driven project in this space - https://github.com/centerofci/mathesar. We just did our alpha release a couple of months ago.

I'm philosophically opposed to open core (Mathesar is run out of a non-profit), but I can see why other projects do it – finding funding for a big project like this is difficult without VCs (who expect returns).

I'm working on https://mathesar.org/ – it's an open source database solution built on Postgres, you can import data, connect to multiple databases, edit data and build reports. It can't connect to non-Postgres databases, so it may not work for you.

We've just released Mathesar v0.1.2. Major new features are support for multiple databases in the UI and more options for installing Mathesar. We also made a bunch of smaller UX improvements and fixed a few bugs. Our full release notes are here: https://github.com/centerofci/mathesar/releases/tag/0.1.2

We did this for our open source project, Mathesar (https://github.com/centerofci/mathesar), which also uses Django. It's a lot of work. You can take a look at our code if it's helpful.

the technical decision how Svelte should treat self-closing html elements was hindered by Prettier:

Svelte

React has introduced measures like batching state updates, background concurrent rendering and memoization to tackle this. My opinion is that the best way to solve the problem is by improving their reactivity model. The app needs to be able to track the code that should be re-run on updating a given state variable and specifically update the UI corresponding to this update. Tools like solid.js and svelte work in this manner. It also eliminates the need for a virtual DOM and diffing.

Similarly to Promises/A+, this effort focuses on aligning the JavaScript ecosystem. If this alignment is successful, then a standard could emerge, based on that experience. Several framework authors are collaborating here on a common model which could back their reactivity core. The current draft is based on design input from the authors/maintainers of Angular, Bubble, Ember, FAST, MobX, Preact, Qwik, RxJS, Solid, Starbeam, Svelte, Vue, Wiz, and more…

Svelte is a powerful web framework that offers a fresh approach to building web applications. Its simplicity, reactivity model, and built-in features make it an excellent choice for developers looking to create efficient and maintainable applications. By following this guide, you should now have a good understanding of how to get started with Svelte and build your first components, routes, and transitions. You can read more about svelte on the official Svelte website.

Use .NET features (especially dotnet watch) as a setup for a client-side Svelte application, starting from a simple C# console app.