luau VS referencesource

As far as I can tell, they aren't.

http://lua-users.org/wiki/SandBoxes

There is a lot of information there, but it doesn't handle resource exhaustion, execution time limits or give any guarantees. It does indicate that it's possible, and has a decent example of the most restrictive setup, which is a good start. But I would for example compare it with Luau's SECURITY.md.

From https://github.com/luau-lang/luau/blob/master/SECURITY.md:

> Luau provides a safe sandbox that scripts can not escape from, short of vulnerabilities in custom C functions exposed by the host. This includes the virtual machine and builtin libraries. Notably this currently does not include the work-in-progress native code generation facilities.

> Any source code can not result in memory safety errors or crashes during its compilation or execution. Violations of memory safety are considered vulnerabilities.

> Note that Luau does not provide termination guarantees - some code may exhaust CPU or RAM resources on the system during compilation or execution.

So, even luau will have trouble with untrusted code, but it specifies exactly what happens and so on. I think that's fair enough.

Alternatively, Luau is a well-supported Lua variant with type checking and performance improvements, aimed more towards being a sandboxed embedded scripting environment.

https://luau-lang.org/

If you need Lua but also type-safety, how about Luau [1] then?

[1] https://luau-lang.org/

I had the pleasure of working with Lua 5.1 back in the late noughties. For me it's replaced Tcl whenever I want something I can configure above a C library. At the time I used it I found it quite nice but I'll also not forget the hours I wasted tracking down nil table corruptions which could have easily been caught by a type checker.

I had some hope that Luau https://luau-lang.org or Teal https://github.com/teal-language/tl would make things better but with the following example

    function foo(x: number): string

Looking at other replies here, I can see I wasn't the only one who didn't realize there is Lua and Luau. Luau is an extension of Lua: https://luau-lang.org/

> Luau is syntactically backwards-compatible with Lua 5.1 (code that is valid Lua 5.1 is also valid Luau); however, we have extended the language with a set of syntactical features that make the language more familiar and ergonomic.

Lua is usually the embedded language of choice. If you are focused on security, you could check out the Roblox fork, Luau (https://github.com/Roblox/luau) where the creators took extra care to lock down the language on what scripts could do.

Luau - Lua variant by Roblox

On a side note, I've heard that they recently switched from Lua to Roblox's own fork of Lua, Luau.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=luau+roblox&sp=...

Luau

https://github.com/Roblox/luau

Roblox wrote a superset of Roblox Lua which is way faster

https://luau-lang.org/ - some documentation, and examples https://create.roblox.com/docs - documentation, tutorials, and examples https://www.youtube.com/user/AlvinBLOX - tutorials https://www.youtube.com/@TheDevKing/videos - tutorials https://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ - not specific to Roblox, but Lua reference manual https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-lua - Lua on Codecademy

But to go deeper to .NET/CLR architecture is important too. Try to understand how it works inside. Use the source, Luke! https://source.dot.net/ https://referencesource.microsoft.com/ This source code vaults is not completed then try JetBrains dotPeek tool to look at any assembly source code.

(https://github.com/Microsoft/referencesource/blob/master/System.ServiceModel/System/ServiceModel/MessageSecurityVersion.cs; scroll down to inner classes)

List is an IList/IReadOnlyList; these interfaces do nothing that couldn't be done right inside the file itself.

https://referencesource.microsoft.com/#mscorlib/system/colle...

https://referencesource.microsoft.com/#mscorlib/system/colle...

Instead we have to go diving through the IList, which implements ICollection, which implements IEnumerable, which implements IEnumerable (again). Just because each interface is composed of another interface, doesn't mean you aren't using inheritance. You are effectively creating a custom inheritance tree through willy-nilly composition.

It is gratuitous to make this chain so deep, when the underlying code is just a handful of lines.

https://referencesource.microsoft.com/#mscorlib/system/colle...

https://referencesource.microsoft.com/#mscorlib/system/colle...

https://referencesource.microsoft.com/#mscorlib/system/colle...

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The doc-strings are unnecessary. It's self-evident what most of the code does if you read it.

        // Returns an enumerator for this list with the given

The whole .net framework source code is online.

https://github.com/microsoft/referencesource/blob/master/System.Numerics/System/Numerics/Vector2.cs https://github.com/microsoft/referencesource/blob/master/System.Numerics/System/Numerics/Vector2_Intrinsics.cs

.net itself has arbitrary interfaces, ex https://github.com/microsoft/referencesource/blob/master/mscorlib/system/action.cs

Assuming if you are new to C# - start coding! And start reading https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/tour-of-csha...

If you are not new to C#, start building an application end-to-end/a classic n-tier application, right from using a database, Entity Framework, WebAPI, DTO, AutoMapper, and a front-end (your choice - Angular/React/Vue with TypeScript or better yet - Blazor).

You will not only understand & use dependency injection, reflection, LINQ, multi-threaded programming, generic programming, source-code generation, unit-testing - and much much more in a practical/real-world usage.

Peruse https://referencesource.microsoft.com/ once in a while.

Follow various team members of .NET Framework, C# team and the like on various social-media. https://mobile.twitter.com/i/lists/120961876

I am sure there will be who agree / disagree with the above approach and will provide more viewpoints for you to consider.

Enjoy - and strap yourself for an amazing journey or roller-coaster ride, however you want to call it!

Maybe from the source of FtpWebRequest it is possible to track what the default behaviour is.

The class is just a very limited dictionary, a library will be the same or better.