geckos.io VS gridia

First, I would try exchange Socket.io over Geckos - https://github.com/geckosio/geckos.io.

I agree the scope is massive. I think a lot of people struggle with figuring out how to even get started with multiplayer dev, and I hope Hathora can be a useful tool for them.

Thanks for linking matchbox - I've been looking into https://github.com/geckosio/geckos.io as a way to integrate WebRTC into Hathora

https://github.com/pion/datachannel looks great! Thank you for sharing your project with the open source community.

I just starred it, it does seem like it'd alleviate a some of the pain. Another similar (more end to end) project I had come across is: geckos.io. This previous HN thread[1] discusses some of the (at least perceived) difficulty with using WebRTC as a "WebSockets but UDP" solution.

I'm not sure I follow the concern about congestion control. UDP doesn't have it either, presumably since if you're building an application that requires such latency sensitivity, you don't mind rolling your own congestion control algorithm that makes most sense given your application's specific needs, right? Pretty much all FPS games do this, as far as I understand.

[0] https://github.com/geckosio/geckos.io

I've been working on this sort of game for awhile now. Never too seriously, though that will change in 2023. Hardly worth sharing at this point, but I will anyway.

https://hoten.cc/gridia/play/

I need to seriously think about what I want out of this game (more of a mmo game engine), but "UO-like" is definitely top of mind.

When making the netcode for my web game, I highly valued TypeScript support so to get it by default, I defined the message types in TypeScript so they could be used directly[1]. I see that this framework defines its messages in .yml and converts it to types (stored in a folder kept out of source control).

I'm not sure which way is best, but it is very nice to have the feature support of `.d.ts` files when creating complex message types, as opposed to needing to learn a new thing. Clearly if this is going to be a cross-platform (not just web) framework then using TypeScript as the source-of-truth makes far less sense.

Anyway, very impressed with the binary format/delta encoding feature! That's been something that I know I _should_ do but am putting off until I see signs of sending raw JSON being problematic.

[1] https://github.com/connorjclark/gridia/blob/master/src/proto...

- All my Preact code is in this folder: https://github.com/connorjclark/gridia-2019-wip/blob/master/src/client/ui/ - Most complex one: https://github.com/connorjclark/gridia-2019-wip/blob/master/src/client/ui/admin-window.tsx - CSS: https://github.com/connorjclark/gridia-2019-wip/blob/master/src/client/styles/main.css