emacs-ipython-notebook VS prelude

the github source : https://github.com/millejoh/emacs-ipython-notebook

I used https://github.com/millejoh/emacs-ipython-notebook at one employer and it works quite well for Jupyter. Of course Org is great but if your coworkers are unfamiliar it's probably a non-starter.

Looking at https://github.com/millejoh/emacs-ipython-notebook/issues this person seems to be using the github issues tracker as a combination of their personal tech support line + ranting board.

Maybe Emacs should have went down the road to have good Jupyter notebooks support instead, even EIN's maintainer was advising against using notebooks.

So that project was forked and this is the better location https://millejoh.github.io/emacs-ipython-notebook/

Except when it doesn't work. I tried using it a few months ago on both Windows and WSL, but I had to give up. Surprisingly, EIN¹ running a Maxima kernel worked.

I was going to try again before commenting, but I broke my WSL setup last week and didn't have time to fix it yet, but I sure will try it again next month.

¹ http://millejoh.github.io/emacs-ipython-notebook/

EIN also looks good but I haven't used it.

From my perspective when I had to turn ML models from a "real scientist" to something I could use in production, emacs-ipython-notebooks[1] was immensely helpful for me, since it allowed to connect to the jupyter server and edit and copy things from emacs to other code places as if I'm looking at an org mode file.

I see the appeal of Jupyter notebooks for someone testing out things or experimenting, but it's a bit like a brain dump that isn't that trivial to navigate around when a second or third person is involved.

[1] https://github.com/millejoh/emacs-ipython-notebook

Hey all! I'm quite attracted by the Emacs IPython Notebook (ein) package and would love to incorporate it into my workflow. However last time I tried (about a year and a half ago) it was officially unsupported in spacemacs and my experiments led to constant headaches like undotree failing, notebooks not saving, native compilation crashing, and a reliance on elpy for IDE features (afaik the only elpy layer available can be found here, uses ESS bindings, and seems to be orphaned.)

> I forgot how absolutely horrible the new user experience is...

The bbatsov/prelude project was started in 2011 to help address that problem. I started using it not long after that, and it's been a joy to use ever since.

And by "started using" I mean I forked it on GitHub, stared personalizing, and then merging/rebasing from upstream ever since at my own leisure.

https://github.com/bbatsov/prelude

https://prelude.emacsredux.com/en/latest/

From 2011 to present, not everyone in the Emacs community feels bbatsov's Emacs Prelude makes the best/correct decisions, but given how long Emacs has been around and how large the community has been over time, what can you really expect?

It's certainly a lighter-weight starter kit compared to Doom Emacs and Spacemacs. (I'm not knocking those projects!). I've also looked at some of the newer starter kits mentioned in other comments here and previous HN threads; they seem okay to me, just reinventing a lot of the same "wheels" you'll find in Prelude but in a less refined form in many cases... such are the freedoms, joys, and trials of Free Software.

If I recall correctly, on my mac I had an issue with the meta and super keys. I had to rebind Meta to Cmd and Super to Opt. Im pretty sure I used Bozhidar Batsov's solution for this.

Another reason for you to stick to Emacs is Emacs Lisp. If you enjoy writing lisp you are not going to find a better piece of software written in any other lisp language. I prefer common lisp to elisp (alot!) but this is a fact in my opinion. Plus elisp is somewhat similar to common lisp and learning/appreciating the differrnces between the two will make you a better lisp programmer.

https://github.com/bbatsov/prelude/blob/master/core/prelude-...

I have based my emacs config on Emacs Prelude from u/bbatsov, because I did not trust starting from vanilla emacs.

When some days ago I decided to use org-mode again, I didn't use Doom Emacs, and it was the best decision that I've made. Instead, I used Prelude, which is a very simple and powerful Emacs config, and it's much less opinionated than Doom Emacs and Spacemacs. Then I disabled the Prelude theme, and combined it with Nano-Emacs. Now I have a very simple Emacs config, which provides me with some of the best tools, and also a very beautiful and elegant theme. I can change everything I want very easily, customized it to my needs.

How do you know? You said you want "fully setup" :) Prelude? Spacemacs? Your own version?

Thanks :)… it was originally heavily inspired by Emacs Prelude, but has since drifted quite far from it.