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zulip-mobile reviews and mentions
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Zulip 7.0 released – Threaded open-source team chat
And a basic feature for the iOS client hasn’t been implemented in 6 years https://github.com/zulip/zulip-mobile/issues/438
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Matrix Community Year in Review 2022
But they haven’t managed to fix a rather basic feature in their iOS client in nearly 6 years now: https://github.com/zulip/zulip-mobile/issues/438
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âźł 3 apps added, 45 updated at f-droid.org
Zulip (version 27.191): The Zulip mobile app, chat for distributed teams
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Zulip – Threaded real-time chat for distributed teams
Federation would make me almost instantly recommend it for a handful of cases, but in the meantime they have a lot of catching up to do in the privacy department.
Behold, the two five year old tickets requesting that they stop passing notification text to Apple/Google cloud messaging:
https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/6954
https://github.com/zulip/zulip-mobile/issues/1190
For those who don't know: if you have an app and want to send a notification to a user, you use Apple or Google push notification services. In both cases, the notification is plaintext but transmitted via encrypted channel to Apple or Google, then transmitted via encrypted channel to the user's phone. But in each case, the push messaging provider gets to see the messaging text.
So companies that give a shit about your privacy send a token instead, that says "hey, wake up, something happened, fetch a notification." Apple likely doesn't do anything with the notification text, but it's a given Google datamines the hell out of it.
They also still don't have any form of e2ee. Here's another five year old ticket requesting end to end encrypted chat, where a bunch of people say "here's a long list of apps that support e2ee" and Zulip devs go "gosh golly how do they handle keys? Math is hard."
https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/6096
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Gotify/server: A simple server for sending and receiving messages in real-time
Indeed. It's been mentioned in the relevant issue: https://github.com/zulip/zulip-mobile/issues/3838
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Zulip (version 169): The world’s most productive group chat
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FOSS app removed from the Play Store for linking to the project's website
We've had similar problems with keeping Zulip in the Apple app store. It's incredibly unpleasant to deal with this aspect of publishing an open source application.
For context, Zulip is a 100% open-source team chat project (in the same space as Slack/IRC/etc.). You can self-host Zulip, which we've put a lot of effort into making easy, or host it on Zulip Cloud (with both free and paid plans). There's no individual subscription option for the product at all -- just like with Slack -- so the app store policies to enforce their monopoly by requiring all individual purchases be taxed by Google/Apple shouldn't even apply to us.
But we've still had multiple rounds of rejections caused by aggressive enforcement of these policies:
* A couple years ago, Apple reviewers repeatedly rejected updates to the app because the privacy policy / terms of service pages linked from the app contained the zulip.com website footer, which in turn link to the pricing page for Zulip's paid offerings. This means our Privacy Policy could be a way to get people to buy something without paying the Apple tax! We "resolved" this, on the advice of their appeals expert, by passing a special parameter when loading these pages from the ToS/Privacy links in the mobile apps that hides the header/footer sections of the page :(.
* In May, Apple reviewers repeatedly rejected the Zulip mobile app for linking to its own source on GitHub. At first we thought the problem was that we had recently set up GitHub Sponsors [1]. Further correspondence determined that the problem was even more ridiculous: Any GitHub page has a tiny link in the https://github.com/zulip/zulip-mobile footer for GitHub's own pricing! We were able to convince them to approve it in the end, but we were close to giving up and removing the GitHub links. I'm still upset about the whole experience because it was a huge waste of energy.
It's not clear to me whether these rejections are what Apple's policies intended or just the policies being incorrectly applied. But it doesn't really matter: these appeal processes are opaque and scary and mostly consist of them repeating what you need to change with minimal explanation. If not for the entrenched monopoly, we'd be looking to switch to another vendor that wasn't so sloppy about something that's very important to us. I think the harm caused by sloppiness on the part of monopolies doesn't get enough attention.
[1] This would have been wrong too, though I do know some companies use a Patreon as the way to sell their product, and I can imagine that being a workaround that Apple would be on the lookout for. But it's easy to check that we're definitely not playing that game.
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zulip/zulip-mobile is an open source project licensed under Apache License 2.0 which is an OSI approved license.
The primary programming language of zulip-mobile is JavaScript.
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