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  • mojo

    The Mojo Programming Language

  • https://github.com/modularml/mojo/blob/5ce18c47a27c0c4123de1...

    I don't know if they support C-extensions for python (and Cpython) so that you can run a benchmark like that with NumPy.

    https://github.com/modularml/mojo/blob/5ce18c47a27c0c4123de1...

  • chapel

    a Productive Parallel Programming Language

  • Agreed. Here is a serious contender[0] minus all the hype and the $100M in VC money. You would expect a minimum of interest given how Mojo is received by the community, but not really in practice.

    [0]: https://chapel-lang.org/

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  • nimpy

    Nim - Python bridge

  • I mean honestly, the closest language to Mojo really is Nim. In the latest Lex Fridman interview [0] when he talks about his ideas behind Mojo it pretty much sounds like he's describing Nim. Ok fair, he wants Mojo to be a full superset of Python, but honestly with nimpy [1] our Python interop is about as seamless as it can really be (without being a superset, which Mojo clearly is not yet). Even the syntax of Mojo looks a damn lot like Nim imo. Anyway, I guess he has the ability to raise enough funds to hire enough people to write his own language within ~2 years so as not have to follow random peoples whim about where to take the language. So I guess I can't blame him. But as someone who's pretty invested in the Nim community it's quite a shame to see such a hyped language receive so much attention by people who should really check out Nim. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    [0]: https://youtu.be/pdJQ8iVTwj8?si=LfPSNDq8UKKIsJd3

    [1]: https://github.com/yglukhov/nimpy

  • arkouda

    Arkouda (αρκούδα): Interactive Data Analytics at Supercomputing Scale :bear:

  • Those interested in the intersection between Python, HPC, and data science may want to take a look at Arkouda, which is a Python package for data science at massive scales (TB of memory) at interactive rates (seconds), powered by Chapel:

    * https://github.com/Bears-R-Us/arkouda

  • Coconut

    Simple, elegant, Pythonic functional programming.

  • > to be part of the Python ecosystem

    I'd rather use Python if I'm in the Python ecosystem. So many attempts were made in the past to make a new language compatible with the Python ecosystem (look up hylang and coconu -- https://github.com/evhub/coconut). But at the end of the day, I'd come back to Python because if there's one thing I've learnt in recent years it's this:

        minimize dependencies at all costs.

  • zig

    General-purpose programming language and toolchain for maintaining robust, optimal, and reusable software.

  • Chapel has at least several full-time developers at Cray/HPE and (I think) the US national labs, and has had some for almost two decades. That's much more than $100k.

    Chapel is also just one of many other projects broadly interested in developing new programming languages for "high performance" programming. Out of that large field, Chapel is not especially related to the specific ideas or design goals of Mojo. Much more related are things like Codon (https://exaloop.io), and the metaprogramming models in Terra (https://terralang.org), Nim (https://nim-lang.org), and Zig (https://ziglang.org).

    But Chapel is great! It has a lot of good ideas, especially for distributed-memory programming, which is its historical focus. It is more related to Legion (https://legion.stanford.edu, https://regent-lang.org), parallel & distributed Fortran, ZPL, etc.

  • terra

    Terra is a low-level system programming language that is embedded in and meta-programmed by the Lua programming language.

  • Chapel has at least several full-time developers at Cray/HPE and (I think) the US national labs, and has had some for almost two decades. That's much more than $100k.

    Chapel is also just one of many other projects broadly interested in developing new programming languages for "high performance" programming. Out of that large field, Chapel is not especially related to the specific ideas or design goals of Mojo. Much more related are things like Codon (https://exaloop.io), and the metaprogramming models in Terra (https://terralang.org), Nim (https://nim-lang.org), and Zig (https://ziglang.org).

    But Chapel is great! It has a lot of good ideas, especially for distributed-memory programming, which is its historical focus. It is more related to Legion (https://legion.stanford.edu, https://regent-lang.org), parallel & distributed Fortran, ZPL, etc.

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  • Nim

    Nim is a statically typed compiled systems programming language. It combines successful concepts from mature languages like Python, Ada and Modula. Its design focuses on efficiency, expressiveness, and elegance (in that order of priority).

  • Chapel has at least several full-time developers at Cray/HPE and (I think) the US national labs, and has had some for almost two decades. That's much more than $100k.

    Chapel is also just one of many other projects broadly interested in developing new programming languages for "high performance" programming. Out of that large field, Chapel is not especially related to the specific ideas or design goals of Mojo. Much more related are things like Codon (https://exaloop.io), and the metaprogramming models in Terra (https://terralang.org), Nim (https://nim-lang.org), and Zig (https://ziglang.org).

    But Chapel is great! It has a lot of good ideas, especially for distributed-memory programming, which is its historical focus. It is more related to Legion (https://legion.stanford.edu, https://regent-lang.org), parallel & distributed Fortran, ZPL, etc.

  • legion

    The Legion Parallel Programming System (by StanfordLegion)

  • Chapel has at least several full-time developers at Cray/HPE and (I think) the US national labs, and has had some for almost two decades. That's much more than $100k.

    Chapel is also just one of many other projects broadly interested in developing new programming languages for "high performance" programming. Out of that large field, Chapel is not especially related to the specific ideas or design goals of Mojo. Much more related are things like Codon (https://exaloop.io), and the metaprogramming models in Terra (https://terralang.org), Nim (https://nim-lang.org), and Zig (https://ziglang.org).

    But Chapel is great! It has a lot of good ideas, especially for distributed-memory programming, which is its historical focus. It is more related to Legion (https://legion.stanford.edu, https://regent-lang.org), parallel & distributed Fortran, ZPL, etc.

  • mojo_comments

    Experiments with mojo

  • I tried it out and compared it to C++ at the last release. Here was what I found: https://github.com/dsharlet/mojo_comments

    Some of the issues I pointed out there are pretty low hanging fruit for LLVM, so they may have improved a lot in more current releases.

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