wxWidgets VS nodegui

The Elixir programming language is no stranger to desktop applications as the language actually supports building them out of the box. It uses wxWidgets: a C++ library that lets developers create applications for Windows, macOS, Linux and other platforms with a single code base. But wxWidgets has a very complex API, and doesn’t solve issues that usually come with desktop applications around packaging.

Qt is also 100% open/free. In fact, both are available under the LGPL, just that wxWidgets also grants an exception to not have to distribute application sources even when statically linked:

https://github.com/wxWidgets/wxWidgets#licence

But for big programs, ones written in C++? Good luck it won’t be easy at all. You might try wxwidgets or qt. I do not predict trying to click box-ify complex cli tools yielding much success.

In theory, you should be able to use FFI to interface with something like wxWindows, but you might again have problems on macOS, I don't know. And to me eyes, Wx looks a bit outdated.

This seems to be like the classic wxWidgets [1], i.e. it's an API that wraps the underlying platform's default toolkit. So on Windows it uses Windows' native controls, in Linux it seems to use GTK, and so on.

That means that the advantage is being able to write against one API, and get cross-platform compatibility, which can be nice. It also means (typically) being limited in what you can do to the least common denominator, or you (=the toolkit author) end up having to re-implement features from one platform that you want to expose but that are missing on some supported target(s). Or, of course, have an API with non-portable parts in it.

In any case, it means the "look and feel" is not the core feature of the API since that is going to be "like the target platform" and that is the point.

Given the origin, I guess Lua support is important too, here.

[1]: https://www.wxwidgets.org/

- So, I found wxWidgets. Which looked good. However, when I followed some tutorials I was getting errors. Even when I copied and pasted the tutorial code. Furthermore, the library still doesn't seem to simplify the process much.

It is the icon for WXWidgets, a programming toolkit for making user interfaces that work on Windows, Mac OS and Linux.

In general, people will use a cross-platform library to port such applications. While QT will likely never really stabilize (I'd flag it unsustainable), the https://www.wxwidgets.org/ is able to be statically linked into commercial and opensource projects at no cost without tripping GPL.

"Hiring a senior C++ developer with GTK experience is costlier"

I think you are confusing skill valuation, and operational productivity. Some have an erroneous notion talent is interchangeable. Likewise, applicants with identical base skill-sets on their CV often mistakenly believe they even have long-term employment options (outsourced, youth tax credit churn, and or senior wage suppression).

Most FOSS people are easier to train, as most already can mitigate utter chaos already. =)

There are a few like that in the C++ community. WxWidgets is the most famous/popular with this approach. But it is a library almost impossible to use in other languages because their api is heavily templated.

This looks like it hasn't been maintained in years but there's a modern equivalent in NodeGUI [1] which also has React/Svelte/Vue implementations. Unfortunately it requires a custom build of Node that merges the libuv and Qt6 event loops so YMMV.

It actually inspired me to write my own implementation with Svelte on top of QuickJS and Qt Widgets but the task of wrapping the entire Qt6 API in Rust proved to be intractable once I found out that most methods weren't marked Q_INVOKABLE and thus couldn't be called via reflection (requiring manual wrapping). Providing a `Document.createElement` API that created Qt Widgets with working attributes and event handling worked surprisingly well though!

[1] https://github.com/nodegui/nodegui

Hi, so this NodeGui library for building apps with native components is something I really want to get into, but, it does not work for me.. so I am starting this thread to check with yous (I depleted google results) if any one of you have tips or workarounds I can use. I wish to build a desktop app, but I really do not want to bundle a web browser for that purpose and NodeGui seems perfect.

Use NodeGui (or some equivalent tool) for this. Source: https://docs.nodegui.org/ This is needed because this entire project will run natively, by that I mean it will run with no browser, no local host and it no internet connection.

NodeGUI

Let's continue exploring Electron alternatives. This time, NodeGui. NodeGui uses Qt5 instead of Chromium, so we'll be leaving the familiar web development behind, but it tries to not be too far from it, as web development is what everyone knows.

(Disclaimer: My knowledge of Rust very limited, but I have quite a bit of experience with getting Qt/KDE classes to work with other languages.)

You are absolutely right. The effort to be acceptable bindings for Qt would be a tiny fraction of the cost compared to building a whole new Rust native GUI library.

Qt is huge set of libraries with an equally huge API. But there are a lot of shortcuts and smart ways of approaching the problem to get what you want out of Qt for minimum effort.

Bindings like PyQt and even PySide go for the nuclear option of generating bindings for the whole Qt API and trying to match the C++ API in style too. This is an absolutely massive huge task. Also, getting people to contribute to an open source bindings project is hard. Getting people to contribute to a bindings generator is even harder.

NodeGui https://github.com/nodegui/nodegui, Qt bindings for Nodejs, on the other hand takes a very different approach which in one way is low-tech but I think is actually very smart. I'll summerise the differences:

* It focuses on Qt Widgets first. This greatly reduces the amount of work to the parts that people actually need. (BTW, if you just want QML and Rust back-end then Jos van den Oever's work at https://invent.kde.org/sdk/rust-qt-binding-generator has probably got you covered already.)

There is actually a new GUI framework based out of Qt (a C++ GUI framework) that I have found recently : https://docs.nodegui.org/