trystero VS ZeroNet

This looks exciting and I'm pleased to see more and more frictionless ways of making p2p apps. I've been building a somewhat similar hobby project [1] that aims to connect peers in the browser by piggybacking on open protocols out on the net (BitTorrent, MQTT, Nostr, IPFS, etc).

This project seems to be using Hyperswarm which I've looked at for use as a peering medium but it seems like it's not supported in the browser. I'd love to implement it if that story changes since it's so easy to distribute apps on the web.

[1] https://github.com/dmotz/trystero/

I was going to mention WebRTC! It seems designed for video calling, but there are lots of cool use cases - I recently ran across https://github.com/dmotz/trystero , a dead simple WebRTC library for peer-to-peer multiplayer browser games.

I strongly endorse Trystero (https://github.com/dmotz/trystero) for enabling P2P communication in web apps. It’s open source and leverages public infrastructure for matchmaking.

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https://github.com/dmotz/trystero

Nice work! Any reason one might use this over https://github.com/dmotz/trystero, you think?

Yes, this is a major issue that I haven't found a real solution for. There seems to be a mixture of iOS Safari bugs and intentional design limitations at play, and I don't know if a fully P2P web app like Chitchatter is practical on that platform. There's an open issue to improve this in Trystero (the networking library that Chitchatter uses), but there may be a limit to how stable iOS will be with WebRTC apps. 😕

You can use Trystero (https://github.com/dmotz/trystero) to cut server costs to zero. That’s what I used to build https://chitchatter.im/, which supports P2P audio and video calls.

WebTorrent is obviously well suited for p2p file distribution, but using a minimal subset of the protocol also provides a nice hack for easily bootstrapping peer connections between web app users. Piggybacking on public mediums already designed to do peer exchange can let you rapidly prototype a WebRTC project without the hassle of running your own server anywhere.

I built a library that explores this idea: https://github.com/dmotz/trystero

ZernoNet project: GitHub - HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet: ZeroNet - Decentralized websites using Bitcoin crypto and BitTorrent network

our views on the project are incompatible. i consider it harmful to the community to: - advertise fork as official continuation (the worst parts of this were eventually removed, but the project's website still completely mimics official and there's no indication it's a fork anywhere - ship binaries presumably made out of builds made by disappeared nofish - copypaste changes without attribution

Sure! Here are the domain links to the decentralized alternatives I mentioned: 1 Steemit: https://steemit.com/ 2 Mastodon: https://joinmastodon.org/ 3 Scuttlebutt: https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/ 4 ZeroNet: https://zeronet.io/ 5 Aether: https://getaether.net/ Please note that these links are current as of my knowledge cutoff in September 2021, and there's a possibility that the domains or availability may have changed since then.

so this anonymous person who've been trolling on github issues and editing wikipedia to mislead people there's no up-to-date forks has now published their fork that violates GPL and authors' right to attribution by deleting git history and replacing all contributors (including founder @nofish) with one "(c) ZeroNet" notice (which is meaningless in its own right 'cause there was never legal entity that owned the code by multiple contributors)

https://zeronet.io/ (https://zeronet.io/) is 100% censorship proof. How come? Cause it is not centralized, It is 100% decentralized

Nothing can be censored here. Nothing. https://zeronet.io. read that again. Nothing can be censored because it is 100% decentralized, that is the opposite of centralized power.

Things like that can't happen on decentralized social media like https://zeronet.io/

P.S - There's more networks than just Tor, if you're still interested perhaps you should check them out: https://geti2p.net/en/ https://freenetproject.org/ https://zeronet.io/ https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/ https://lokinet.org/ r/i2p r/freenet r/zeronet r/yggdrasil r/oxen_io

If Elon really valued free speech, he would have invested his billions into developing https://zeronet.io/ to make it popular and very user friendly. 😉