start-os VS umbrel-apps

Will these outperform RaspB-PI4/8gb ? Looking to run start9.com as a BTC node/lightning

Who? Start9 (9% off if you pay with bitcoin), Lightning in a box (BTCPayServer pre-installed), My node. There's Citadel and Umbrel OS that you can run on any device.

If it’s more powerful than a raspberry pi 4, then consider running Embassy OS and use it as a home server. https://start9.com/

If you are reading this please take a look at start9. https://start9.com/

The major problem with Umbrel is that even though they package all in one-solutions. If something goes wrong you rely on umbrel for issues (against decentralization). You will rely on their updates for any problems.

start9 built an linux os group up. all services are individually packaged from source.

umbrel packages all dependencies together (via docker container) which could causes issues for maintenace.

// start9 vs umbrel

You don't need much power to run a node. I run it on a Raspberry Pi, with https://getumbrel.com/. There are other similar options, like https://start9.com, https://mynodebtc.com/ to check out.

The most popular implementation of a Bitcoin hardware node presently is Umbrel. There also remains a share of the market taken by The Embassy, MyNode, Raspiblitz and Nodl. Umbrel started as a simple Bitcoin and Lightning Node but has grown to match a bigger vision, one started by The Embassy.

All official and/or popular Docker images. You can view individual Docker images for every app here: https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps

So on umbrel, there is a way to run local instance of Nextcloud that works out of the box. I have it set up in addition to the one with domain. Maybe check this link out https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps/blob/master/nextcloud/

I feel like you're not really answering OP's question, so I'll give it a go. From what I can tell Umbrel is essentially delivering compose file that is using Vaultwarden image behind the scenes.

Here is an example of someone that did exactly what you're asking for: https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps/blob/master/btcpay-server/docker-compose.yml

If you want your application to be integrated into Umbrel itself, you have to follow these instructions. Submitting it for inclusion into their app store is entirely optional.

First, I checked if there was any easy way to go about this through the Umbrel interface (/u/katarinamightytravel suggested that there was). I, like you, could not find it anywhere. I don't see anything listed on the list of apps that looks promising (https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps).

If you have a look at the docker-compose file for the Umbrel LNBits app you'll get a sense of how it works with your node. It's communicating with the LND back end over REST. Basically, it *is* your wallet, but with additional features layered on top, and with a level of abstraction that keeps funds separate. That unfortunately is the limit of my technical understanding, but the gist of it is that, because LNBits talks to the underlying LND service to get things done, sending funds from your Umbrel "wallet" to LNBits is basically sending funds to yourself.

I don't know about raspiblitz, but you can see exactly what docker images Umbrel is using for each app here: https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps

That's probably as simple as bumping the container version and submitting a PR on the umbrel apps repo.