sst-start-demo VS flyctl

https://docs.serverless-stack.com and https://www.serverless.com/ can support next. However serverless-stack is too new and serverless framework looks promising but it uses an old version of serverless plugin.

I'm new to serverless and I've recently discovered frameworks like the Serverless Framework and SST. I've seen examples of Lambda functions where people interact with DBs like DynamoDB, authenticating users with Cognito and using API Gateway to map routes (these are all AWS-specific terms), which seems to me like you can pretty much build a CRUD API on top of this. However, I've also seen examples like this one where you can deploy a backend framework such as Nest.js as a single lambda function.

Hey all, recently I've been learning a lot about serverless APIs and I discovered frameworks like Serverless and SST which look great. I then also discovered that you can apparently deploy a Nest.js backend as a lambda handler -- here is a relevant article. Has anyone tried this? If you are looking to start working on a new project, is it a good idea to combine these together, or would you be better off just writing individual lambda handlers without a framework like Nest?

Hosting NextJS apps on AWS I would recommend https://docs.serverless-stack.com/ which has an inbuilt CDK pre-configured NextJS setup or https://registry.terraform.io/modules/dealmore/next-js/aws/latest

I highly recommend serverless SST. https://docs.serverless-stack.com/

> The ability to move between the frontend, backend, and infrastructure code without having to learn a different language is invaluable to every member of the team.

I'm actually quite skeptical of this claim. Learning a new language isn't really a big deal unless you are using relatively "esoteric" stuff like clojure or elixir which really require an experienced consultant to train your team.

With AWS Chalice, we've been able to ship production scale code (for govcloud) in Python without any one of us breaking the environment by simply using separate staging. We were able to get PHP/Javascript developers to use it with barely any downtime. In fact it was more or less appreciated from the clean and simple nature of Python right from the get go.

This feels like way too much engineering from the get go. Here's my workflow with AWS Chalice and its super basic (I'm open to improvements here).

- checkout code from github

- run localhost and test endpoints written in python (exactly like Flask)

- push to development stage API gateway

- verify it is working as intended and this is when we catch missing IAM roles, we document them. if something is wrong with our AWS setup (we dont use CDK just simply use the AWS console to set everything up once like VPC and RDS)

- push to production stage API gateway

All this shimming, typescript (rule of thumb is ~40% more code for 20% improvement through less documentation and type errors, only really valid in large teams) separate AWS developer accounts seems overkill.

The one benefit I see from all this extra compartmentalization is if you are working in large teams for a large company since you are going to discover missing IAM roles and permissions anyways and is part of being an implicit "human AWS compiler trying different stackoverflow answers".

Some positives I see are CDK but if you are deploying your infrastructure once, I really don't see the need for it, unless you have many infrastructures that can benefit from boilerplate generation.

Happy to hear from all ends of the spectrum, serverless-stack could be something I explore this weekend but there's just so much going on and I'm getting lot of marketing department vibes from reading the website (like idea to ipo and typescript for all) and to top it off

going to https://docs.serverless-stack.com/ triggers an antivirus warning about some netlify url ( nostalgic-brahmgupta09582d1.netlify.app) what is going on here???

documentation which is top notch

On a related note, shout out to https://docs.serverless-stack.com/ which is kinda like Serverless Framework except build on the CDK. Much more solid IMHO

ServerlessStack framework

For frontend deployment, I used Netlify (for the generous free package) and the recommended fly.io for server + database (also cheap package).

Create an account on Fly.io.

You can learn more about fly.io and tigris, we will need to create an account on both platforms for this project regardless. Anyway with the theory out of the way let's get started in the next section as we create our accounts and start building the app.

Fly.io is a platform that helps you run your apps and databases closer to your users all around the world. It takes your app code, packages it up neatly, and puts it on virtual machines that can be quickly started or stopped. This makes your app faster for users and more reliable. Fly.io is easy to use, works well for small projects or personal apps. It's a great way to make sure your app runs smoothly for people no matter where they are.

In this post, we'll start from scratch, running FerretDB locally via Docker, trying out the connection with mongosh and the MongoDB Node.js client, and finally deploy FerretDB to Fly.io for a production ready set up.

2- fly.io

Fly is a cloud platform that focuses on global edge computing. Fly specializes in high-performance hosting and provides a global network of edge locations. Fly is known for its scalability and performance optimizations.

But videototextai.com is built using NextJS + Firebase auth + Firestore and a backend deployed at fly.io . Fly makes it really easy to deploy docker containers and that is IMO the fastest way to develop, you can setup a local setup

Alternatives explored: * northflank: While running the wrk test, requests were taking 3-7 seconds. Couldn't repeat Heroku's phenomenon of "400ms-800ms" during such a load test. * fly.io: Reliability: It’s Not Great * render.com: I remember the time when indiehackers.com was down because of an outage on Render, not sure if it's worth trusting.

For personal/portfolio projects fly.io and render.com both have free tiers that support the major backend frameworks and Postgres at the very least (although I think with Render at least the DB expires and has to be reloaded after a certain amount of time, have not personally tried it).