sidewinder VS Avo

7 months ago I posted here about my open source starter kit Sidewinder https://github.com/stribny/sidewinder. The goal was to create a kit that would come prepared with development and deployment tools, mainly to deploy a Django app to a single private virtual server.

You can have a look at https://github.com/stribny/sidewinder where I styled the most important pages (https://github.com/stribny/sidewinder/tree/master/templates/account) for email-based login (no social login).

If you are talking about end-to-end UI tests, then using Playwright you can write your tests in Python and execute them together with other tests that you run with pytest. I have exactly this in https://stribny.github.io/sidewinder/ starter kit.

You should probably really define what you need a bit better. I have a starter kit (https://stribny.github.io/sidewinder/) that has some good defaults out of the box (like using django-allauth). Pair it with e.g. https://github.com/paddle-python/dj-paddle for Paddle (or something similar for Stripe) and you have a good base.

Feel free to check my Ansible playbook (`deployment`) folder of my starter kit: https://stribny.github.io/sidewinder/

You can see it working in a Django project here: https://stribny.github.io/sidewinder/

Check out https://stribny.github.io/sidewinder/, maybe that's what you next project will need :D

My first choice if the product is a good fit would be old school Django deployed to a single VPS (no docker). I am creating a public starter kit that does exactly that, including the deployment part: https://stribny.github.io/sidewinder/

However, there are lots of use cases that would call for additional SPA (Vue/Nuxt), or other tech. So in that case I'd add it or replace the tech stack entirely. I'd probably avoid specialized cloud services, might consider something like https://supabase.com tho if the app doesn't need a complex backend.

Quality is often much better with these kinds of templates and frameworks, because the creators often can make better default choices.

For example, Avo (https://avohq.io) and Bullet Train (https://bullettrain.co/) are IMHO both much higher quality out of the box than what a typical intermediate Rails developer could accomplish in months of full time learning and coding.

<%= link_to(@car) do %> <%= @car.name %> -- Check this car! <% end %> cars/1"> Tesla -- Check this car! <%= link_to "https://avohq.io/" do %> AvoHQ - The Best Rails Guide <% end %> https://avohq.io/"> AvoHQ - The Best Rails Guide

Access the Avo, and click on Sign Up. After completing registration, click on your profile icon and select Subscriptions, then Choose a plan, choose the Pro version and click on Start 30 day trial. The system URL is not required, click Subscribe. Now you will have your key to use the Avo 2 Pro version for 30 days.

But there's another alternative for Ruby on Rails. This is a shameless plug, but why don't you try Avo?

URL: https://avohq.io

Nothing really beats Rails. Use something like Jumpstart (jumpstartrails.com) and Avo (https://avohq.io) and you scaffold a full consumer-ready app in literally a few hours.

The thing that bugs me the most with Next.JS and the whole JAMStack movement is that, yeah, you get from "git clone" to deployed on Vercel in two minutes, but if you need to create real app features like a sturdy admin, accounts, authorization, proper asset management, CI/CD, it takes a whole lotta time. I'm not even touching the most common app features.

Hey. I'm Adrian, author of Avo. Avo is similar to Refine but for Ruby on Rails.

It helps developers create CRUD-like applications such as internal tools, admin panels, Content Management Systems and user-facing apps.

I love seeing more and more movement in this space.

https://avohq.io

Laravel has Nova, Django has Django Admin, and now, Rails has Avo.

https://avohq.io

*I am the author of Avo