secretive VS pass-import

Compare secretive vs pass-import and see what are their differences.

secretive

Store SSH keys in the Secure Enclave (by maxgoedjen)
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secretive

Posts with mentions or reviews of secretive. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-09-25.
  • GitHub Passkeys are generally available
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 25 Sep 2023
    Secretive might be what you're looking for: https://github.com/maxgoedjen/secretive
  • Zero Effort Private Key Compromise: Abusing SSH-Agent for Lateral Movement
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 15 Sep 2023
    Good find! I was always curious how this worked.

    I'm a big fan of tools like secretive[1] that can help solve this problem by using biometrics to shift the UX/security trade-off and thus make it feasible to always require some kind of authentication to sign a token with a key.

    I'm not aware of any tools that do the same for Linux, and a quick Google search doesn't turn up much[2]. It does look like you can at least get a notification[3], though.

    This could provide another layer of protection on the user's endpoint device in addition the network monitoring called out in the article. Defense in depth, and all that.

    [1] https://github.com/maxgoedjen/secretive

    [2] https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/705144/unlock-an-ss...

    [3] https://www.insecure.ws/2013/09/25/ssh-agent-notification.ht...

  • Tell HN: 1Password 8.10.8 update corrupted data
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 29 Jun 2023
    https://github.com/maxgoedjen/secretive

    > Secretive is an app for storing and managing SSH keys in the Secure Enclave

  • Software Developer Mac Apps
    44 projects | /r/macapps | 17 May 2023
    Secretive, which replaces painfully managing SSH keys from the command line / editor. Getting a Touch ID prompt is so much better, though migrating computers will suck.
  • SSH keys setup, use, and proper OpSec
    1 project | /r/linux | 16 Apr 2023
    consider using a higher-security setup. Secretive is an SSH agent for MacOS that stores keys within the host's secure enclave, where they can't be copied off, and can optionally require touchid validation before the key is used. This way, if you forward it the key to an compromised host and an attacker tries to use them, it'll still require a fingerprint (but, balance it with the fact that Secretive doesn't have nearly as many eyeballs checking it, yet!). Likewise, yubikeys can be setup to store SSH keys inside them and require touch to use.
  • Secretive: Store SSH Keys in the Secure Enclave
    1 project | /r/hypeurls | 9 Mar 2023
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Mar 2023
  • Russhian Roulette: 1/6 chance of posting your SSH private key on pastebin
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Jan 2023
    You can store them in the Secure Enclave on OSX and require TouchID to use the key for signing.

    See: https://github.com/maxgoedjen/secretive

  • Use TouchID to Authenticate Sudo on macOS
    11 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 26 Aug 2022
    Not exactly connected but the same crowd interested in this topic may also be interested in this tool to store SSH private keys in the Secure Enclave, kind of like what can be done with a YubiKey:

    https://github.com/maxgoedjen/secretive

    I've been looking for something like this for 3-4 years but only found it six months ago (in an HN thread). I use separate keys for every use case, and now know every time a key is used for any purpose, whether it's connecting to source control or my text editor is connecting to a remote VM.

    Only thing I haven't figured out is how to do git signatures with these sorts of keys, but I haven't debugged it at all.

  • A sane SSH(1) key management example
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 18 Aug 2022
    On Macs, Secretive [0] is great. It creates keys in the secret enclave, from where they can't be read, only used for signing requests. TouchID authorisation is optional but it's so quick and easy that I keep it on for all keys.

    It can also use Smart Cards (Yubikeys are called out by name in the readme).

    A forwarded agent will have the same level of security, meaning that if the forwarded agent needs to use a key in Secretive, it will have to be authorised locally - and even if TouchID is disabled, you are notified if a key is used.

    [0] https://github.com/maxgoedjen/secretive/

pass-import

Posts with mentions or reviews of pass-import. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-02-13.
  • End of Life for Twilio Authy Desktop App
    13 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Feb 2024
  • I Know What Your Password Was Last Summer
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 11 Feb 2024
    > I always tell these people to just sign up for a password manager and they always resist and say no. I must be missing something obvious.

    Maybe they don't want to be relying on a random third-party for all their passwords?

    Rather than getting them to sign up for a password manager, what about getting them to install a password manager? I use https://www.passwordstore.org/ - it encrypts your passwords with GPG, and shares the storage via a Git repository for synchronisation between different machines.

  • Command Line Interface Guidelines
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Feb 2024
    That way you can delegate the password handling to another program, e.g. a password manager like pass(1) (https://www.passwordstore.org/) or some interactive graphical prompt.
  • Passit: Open-Source Password Manager
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 19 Jan 2024
    I want to move to something compatible with https://www.passwordstore.org/ - an open standard for keeping your passwords in a folder encrypted with OpenPGP.

    The problem is that I'm nervous to give an unknown Android app and browser plugin total control of my passwords and access to my github account when I don't have time to review it's code properly. I have a bit more trust ing the command line tools, but I'd like to be sure that more people are looking at the code before I trust my life to it.

  • Ask HN: Best Password Manager without cloud login?
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Jan 2024
    > Create a system or pattern based on url or brand and mentally hash it into a password.

    Doesn't sound very secure. Also when you realize that you anyway have to trust cryptography, I believe it starts making a lot of sense to have an actual cryptographic key and encrypt it with one good random password you learn by heart.

    I use pass https://www.passwordstore.org/, which encrypts my passwords with my GPG key, which comes from my Yubikey, which I unlock with a password. That means that I only need to remember one password, and it feels a lot more secure than your pattern based on url or brand.

  • Do you trust password mangers?
    2 projects | /r/privacy | 10 Dec 2023
    i use pass and keep my database on a local git repo. it encrypts your passwords with gpg and is a really simple command line program
  • Comment gérez-vous vos mots de passe ?
    4 projects | /r/france | 6 Dec 2023
  • Best way to store and Encrypt passwords? Need advice on my method...
    1 project | /r/DataHoarder | 4 Dec 2023
    If you want portability and simplicity, there's a project called simply pass that uses standard *nix utilities (and git, I believe) to manage passwords from CLI.
  • Bitwarden Broken in Linux
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Nov 2023
    0. Pass is just text files encrypted with gpg. I needed just one password on one work computer, where I had my gpg key, but not all my passwords. Decrypted the file and that was it.

    1. There are plugins and web clients: https://www.passwordstore.org/#extensions

  • Bitwarden Adds Support for Passkeys
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Nov 2023
    I've been incredibly happy with https://www.passwordstore.org/ for years. The data store is a file hierarchy, with the files themselves encrypted with GPG. Sync is via git. TOTP support with a plugin.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing secretive and pass-import you can also consider the following projects:

sekey - Use Touch ID / Secure Enclave for SSH Authentication!

vaultwarden - Unofficial Bitwarden compatible server written in Rust, formerly known as bitwarden_rs

YubiKey-Guide - Guide to using YubiKey for GnuPG and SSH

gopass - The slightly more awesome standard unix password manager for teams

openssh-sk-winhello - A helper for OpenSSH to interact with FIDO2 and U2F security keys through native Windows Hello API

Bitwarden - The core infrastructure backend (API, database, Docker, etc).

Vault - A tool for secrets management, encryption as a service, and privileged access management

rofi-pass - rofi frontend for pass

vault-plugin-secrets-onepasswor

KeeWeb - Free cross-platform password manager compatible with KeePass

rust-u2f - U2F security token emulator written in Rust

Pass4Win - Windows version of Pass (http://www.passwordstore.org/)