cloak VS cue

SEEKING FOUNDER CEO | Dev Tools | CEO Co-founder | Worldwide | MVP

Lookign for

Someone with experience taking a product to market, someone willing to trade equity for MAUs.

Idea

https://cloak.software/

Current Progress

Ready to onboard users but still a few issues to iron out.

Contact

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianpurton

Hi. I'm also working on an E2E secrets manager. https://github.com/purton-tech/cloak

A few tips.

1. It looks like I'm able to do account enumeration on your login page. For a secure app you want to make sure this is not possible.

You want to take a look at Earthly. https://earthly.dev/

This gives you a mix of docker and a makefile.

The best bit is you can test your pipeline locally and you are vendor agnostic.

I'm using it here https://github.com/purton-tech/cloak

I commit to a github repo and that gets deployed to cloudflare pages. https://pages.cloudflare.com/

I use Zola the static site generator. My repo is here https://github.com/purton-tech/cloak/tree/main/www

You can see my migrations to switch on RLS here https://github.com/purton-tech/cloak/blob/main/db/migrations/20220808094314_tenancy_isolation.sql

Hi we are running selenium tests in our CI/CD pipeline.

We do actually generate a video of the tests running as an example see here https://github.com/purton-tech/cloak/actions/runs/2787628672

We're not using cypress we use webdriver connected to a selenium docker instance.

Is that something you can connect to?

I can give you a concrete example if that helps.

I looked at the "secrets automation" space and my background is cryptography and web development.

I'm a solo developer so when I look at a problem I have to make the solution small enough that I can actually build it.

I also have to have an idea about how I will get people to use my product i.e. marketing.

In my case 1Password raised 620million in funding based on their acquisition of Secretshub which for me proves there is a market in secrets automation for developers.

I looked at the secretshub product and I was confident I could build it better with easier to use encryption and make it open source.

As the market is developers I feel writing blog articles about software development will give me a route to market.

So I started about 4 months ago. The product is now here https://cloak.software and source code is here https://github.com/purton-tech/cloak

My first article about web development with rust has already had 16K views so I'm confident with the marketing approach. Now the hard works starts of turning visitors into paying users.

Hope this helps.

I've just launched an MVP for a solution to this problem. https://cloak.software/

I've been using Earthly for about 6 months.

Earthly uses Dockerfile style syntax so I don't have to learn a new language, I can leverage my existing knowledge.

Another advantage is that in Earthly I can run up a docker compose within my pipeline so that I have selenium, envoy and postgres running for integration testing.

You can see my integration tests here https://github.com/purton-tech/cloak/blob/main/Earthfile#L14...

Is that possible in dagger?

If you are in a situation where you have a backend and you want to expose an API and then you would eventually want a client, you would need format specs as the starting point where server and clients are generated from that one source.

At the moment, OpenAPI with YAML is the only way to go but you can't easily split the spec into separate files as you would do any program with packages, modules and what not.

There are third party tools[0] which are archived and the libraries they depend upon are up for adoption.

In that space, either you can use something like cue language 1] or something like TypeSpec which is purpose built for this so yet, this seems like a great tool although I have not tried it yet myself.

[0]. https://github.com/APIDevTools/swagger-cli

[1]. https://cuelang.org/

EDIT: formating

Where `kube.cue` sets reasonable defaults (e.g. image is /). The "cluster" runs on a mini PC in my basement, and I have a small Digital Ocean VM with a static IP acting as an ingress (networking via Tailscale). Backups to cloud storage with restic, alerting/monitoring with Prometheus/Grafana, Caddy/Tailscale for local ingress.

[1] https://www.talos.dev/

[2] https://cuelang.org/

I've been somewhat surprised that CUE bills itself as "tooling friendly" and doesn't yet have a language server- the number one bit of tooling most devs use for a particular language.

I'm assuming it's becaus CUE is still unstable?

Anyway, if others are interested in CUE's LSP work, I think https://github.com/cue-lang/cue/issues/142 is the issue to subscribe to

This is where I usually pitch in with "Have your heard of CUELang, our lord and savior?": https://cuelang.org/

- Not turing complete

CUE: The core problem CUE solves is "type checking", which is mainly used in configuration constraint verification scenarios and simple cloud native configuration scenarios.

If you really want executable configurations please consider a newer language like https://dascript.org or https://cuelang.org which provide better type safety.

1- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38030778

Markdown and XML are nice, but what about more advanced documentation formats like OpenAPI? For one recent project, I set up automatic generation of the OpenAPI docs from (much more compact and flexible) CUE definitions (https://cuelang.org/) - which has the bonus of also being able to test the API against the definitions. JetBrains has a CUE plugin, but it's really barebones (doesn't even support jumping from the usage of a schema to its definition). Of course the possibilities when generating docs are endless (just think of the various syntaxes for doc comments, embedding examples/tests in source code etc.)...

It doesn't include validators for TOML and INI, but if you're doing JSON and YAML, I would take a look at using or building upon CUE (https://cuelang.org/). It is a different take on schema definition (plus more), and is surprising terse and powerful model.