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schema
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Tired by the dynamicism
Plumatic schema (https://github.com/plumatic/schema) , or friends I might be wrong, but I think schema might make more sense to you coming from the F# world (might be wrong)
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Clojure from a Schemer's perspective
This one? I didn't. I hear good things about it, and it's reached a point of maturity, being widely used in production.
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Worrying comment from HN on Building a Startup on Clojure
Uhhh spec has existed for a long time and before that, schema Nowadays we also have the excellent malli. If his codebase is full of functions where the shape of the data isn’t obvious, isn’t documented and isn’t specified in a specific/schema, that’s on him and his bad coding practices and really no different from passing data in other dynamic languages. A class by itself (without additional effort) only gives you field names.
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Building a Startup on Clojure
I don't understand this reputation either. There are very large systems built on other Lisps. For example, Emacs has a massive amount of Elisp. Elisp is much more primitive than Clojure, and traditionally libraries don't use e.g. data schemas [1] as runtime contracts for data.
Obviously, once a system built on top of a dynamic language grows beyond certain threshold, you need to be very disciplined as there are no static types to ensure some degree of correctness.
[1] https://github.com/plumatic/schema
- Clojure needs a Rails, but not for the reason you think
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General anxiety regarding learning Clojure and such
Try to learn a schema library early, like Malli or Prismatic Schema. Do not mistook them as "static-typing" things - it's more for data validation and coercion than "security that things will get the right typing information". The idea to learn them early is how you'll shape future code: validating all "output data" first, them using that data inside your program without "defensive programming" like checking every time if a specific value on a map is nil, etc
- Six years of professional Clojure development
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What are some great Clojure libraries, as of 2021?
In Clojure, declarative data specifications for validation and generation are also very mainstream. Schema was first out the door, Clojure Spec is the most popular library, while malli is gaining popularity fast at the moment.
janet
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Scriptable Operating Systems with Lua [pdf]
Seems like a perfect use-case for Janet. (https://janet-lang.org/) A fast minimal VM like Lua, but even more extensible than Lua by being a "Lisp" with macro and C extension capabilities. Not a true Lisp, it's very pragmatic and performance-oriented. But it keeps the good stuff.
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Ask HN: A Lisp with Cargo/NPM like build system?
You might be looking for: https://janet-lang.org/
It comes with a build tool `jpm` which installs dependencies globally by default, but you can have it be installed in your project folder as well.
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Babashka: Fast native Clojure scripting runtime
I like Clojure, but I never had any good opportunities to use it other than for a few small hobby projects. It is unfortunate that it is so huge with tons of dependencies and no simpler native implementation. I started looking at various LISPs and Schemes to find something lighter to use instead and ended up settling for Janet that I think is Clojure-like enough to be comfortable to use, but in a small native binary with no dependencies and can be embedded in other native programs. I am sure for big, real, projects that Clojure makes more sense, but for my hobby projects and scripts I do not think I will install it again. I am still happy for the things I learned from learning Clojure. It was a real eye-opener for an old OO-programmer.
https://janet-lang.org/
- Janet Language
- Why Fennel?
- Embeddable Common Lisp 23.9.9
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Sharpscript: Lisp for Scripting
One might also check out Janet for quick scripting tasks.
https://janet-lang.org
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Red Programming Language
Thanks!
I thought about another multiplatform, homoiconic, highly compact language: https://janet-lang.org/ (takes 803 kb on my machine).
It has no types though.
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Systems Programming with Racket
Racket is great, and if you like it you might find Rash interesting:
https://rash-lang.org/
Janet and Gerbil Scheme are also worth a look:
https://janet-lang.org/
https://cons.io/
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how did you finally reach Lisp enlightenment?
Point here is that, for instance Janet language does not have cons / pair type but tuple (and so is lispoid, not lisp), but clearly this is sufficient for macros & hence seamless language construction: all you need is to be a lispoid although being a lisp gives another useful feature.
What are some alternatives?
malli - High-performance data-driven data specification library for Clojure/Script.
Fennel - Lua Lisp Language
clj-kondo - Static analyzer and linter for Clojure code that sparks joy
get-started-with-clojure - Learn Clojure and Interactive Programming – Zero install
specter - Clojure(Script)'s missing piece
babashka - Native, fast starting Clojure interpreter for scripting
matcher-combinators - Library for creating matcher combinator to compare nested data structures
scheme-for-max - Max/MSP external for scripting and live coding Max with s7 Scheme Lisp
clojure-dsl-resources - A curated list of Clojure resources for dealing with domain-specific languages.
ferret - Ferret is a free software lisp implementation for real time embedded control systems.
fulcro - A library for development of single-page full-stack web applications in clj/cljs
kaboom.js - 💥 JavaScript game library