obsidian-citation-plugin VS Joplin

Does https://github.com/hans/obsidian-citation-plugin maybe work for you?

I've been in contact with the creator of the Obsidian Citations plugin which you may have noticed has been relatively quite for the past year or so.

Another problem is that no matter how much I tried, the two available Zotero plugins for Obsidian do not work for me (this https://github.com/mgmeyers/obsidian-zotero-integration and this https://github.com/hans/obsidian-citation-plugin). I am not sure if that is because I'm on Linux, but they just don't work. However, RStudio on Linux works great with Zotero, and I can easily add citations using the Better BibTeX for Zotero plugin (https://github.com/retorquere/zotero-better-bibtex) to create citation keys. That way, I can simply copy/paste the citation key (e.g. '@lastname2020') in the text and have it render into the citation when I render the file in Rstudio. I sometimes write documents with > 300 references, and Zotero running in a Windows VM, trying to refresh a huge word document would take a long time, and would lead to corrupt citations. That's no problem with a markdown/Rmarkdown document.

I like it more than other options like Citation: https://github.com/hans/obsidian-citation-plugin

There are several plugins to organize citations available for Obsidian, although you'd probably need to be willing to migrate your workflow (notes, citations, etc.) into it to get the most out of it.

How about this?

For (2) above, I use the reading note template provided by obsidian-citation-plugin.

6+7) Yes, that's correct! I read on the ereader (Boox NoteAir), then import annotations into Zotero (described above). The annotations are exported to Obsidian using the citations plugin (I could share my template, if you're interested). Now I have a markdown document with metadata and all the highlights. Then I can go through the (very time-consuming!) task of summarizing these highlights into notes. I write two types of notes: first a 'literature note' (one big one, some I'm not completely sticking to the Zettelkasten method here) with headings for each idea from the texts that I want to have a note on. I rewrite the highlights in my own words (and have the text open for reference while I do that), and sometimes I'll embed some highlights as quotes if I think it's nice to keep the original wording of the author there too. These literature notes stick closely to the original text; I won't add anything. The second type are like 'permanent notes'. In these, I might add ideas from other authors, my own ideas etc. Perhaps 'living notes' would be a better term, because this is where I try to synthesize ideas from different sources (and thus they'll constantly be expanded and rewritten as I read, learn and think more).

I've had great success with using Joplin for this, with Syncthing as a sync backend. Works well across OSes; I use it on Linux, macOS, Windows and Android.

https://joplinapp.org/

The tools to manipulate SQL aren't that bad, no.

But rather than having a self explanatory markdown & flat file, now I have to start learning about the schema & making specific tools (in my preferred language) for manipulating Joplin's schema.

Suddenly I'm digging through 20 different technic specs to decode what data is where, how it works, and what I can do to it. Want to edit history? This is the best help you'll get, pray it's adequately technical to expedite you to your purpose: https://github.com/laurent22/joplin/blob/dev/readme/dev/spec...

As I began with, I struggle to imagine anything that generates anywhere near as much user agency as flat files and markdown. Having boring common data & systems lets me apply portable skills I already have, rather than having to skill up in some particular product's own ecosystem.

Joplin is a good open source option too, feels more like the original Evernote in terms of UI/UX https://github.com/laurent22/joplin/

Joplin, an open source, extendable, Markdown-based hierarchical note-taking app: https://joplinapp.org/

It lets you choose a synchronization backend, offers applications for every major desktop and mobile OS (also has a terminal version). You can create notebooks and subnotebooks to organize your notes. You can also add tags for better search experience. I created notebooks for specific domains (work-related, home improvement, etc.) and also keep a "temp" for quick notes and W.I.P. snippets.

Its only con that it uses Electron on desktop which causes relatively slow start of the application.

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