llvm-cbe VS llvm-project

Compare llvm-cbe vs llvm-project and see what are their differences.

llvm-cbe

resurrected LLVM "C Backend", with improvements (by JuliaHubOSS)

llvm-project

Fork of LLVM with Xtensa specific patches. To be upstreamed. (by espressif)
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llvm-cbe llvm-project
14 10
791 217
1.8% 1.4%
6.5 0.0
2 months ago 7 days ago
C++ C++
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llvm-cbe

Posts with mentions or reviews of llvm-cbe. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-06-30.
  • Ask HN: LLVM vs. C
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 30 Jun 2023
    So how does the LLVM C backend work then?

    https://github.com/JuliaHubOSS/llvm-cbe

  • rust to c complication?
    6 projects | /r/rust | 12 Nov 2022
    One alternative worth mentioning, though, would be the LLVM C Backend maintained by the Julia community.
  • Programming language that compiles to clean C89 or C99?
    2 projects | /r/AskProgramming | 30 Sep 2022
    If you drop "easily" and "human" (/s) from your requirements list, then the C backend for LLVM might work. Then you can choose any programming language you want that has LLVM 10-compatible frontend.
  • Easy way to convert a C++ library into straight C ?
    1 project | /r/cpp_questions | 30 Sep 2022
    If you really must have something that compiles in C (e.g. for a platform where you only have a C compiler) there's an LLVM backend that outputs C code: https://github.com/JuliaComputingOSS/llvm-cbe
  • Snowman native code to C/C++ decompiler for x86/x86_64/ARM
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 22 Apr 2022
  • Can Rust do every low level stuff C/C++ do?
    7 projects | /r/rust | 9 Mar 2022
    You can convert llvm bitcode to C and then use C compiler, there is such project https://github.com/JuliaComputingOSS/llvm-cbe .
  • lipstick: a Rust-like syntax frontend for C
    7 projects | /r/rust | 17 Jan 2022
    I'm really surprised that the LLVM C backends have continually been resurrected then abandoned over the years. It's a good solution to this sort of thing and would enable a lot of cool stuff like Rust to weird embedded platforms. The most recent one is the Julia backend: https://github.com/JuliaComputingOSS/llvm-cbe
  • C++ to C converter?
    1 project | /r/cpp_questions | 1 Jan 2022
    Check this project out: https://github.com/JuliaComputingOSS/llvm-cbe.
  • Show HN: prometeo – a Python-to-C transpiler for high-performance computing
    19 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Nov 2021
    Well IMO it can definitely be rewritten in Julia, and to an easier degree than python since Julia allows hooking into the compiler pipeline at many areas of the stack. It's lispy an built from the ground up for codegen, with libraries like (https://github.com/JuliaSymbolics/Metatheory.jl) that provide high level pattern matching with e-graphs. The question is whether it's worth your time to learn Julia to do so.

    You could also do it at the LLVM level: https://github.com/JuliaComputingOSS/llvm-cbe

    For interesting takes on that, you can see https://github.com/JuliaLinearAlgebra/Octavian.jl which relies on loopvectorization.jl to do transforms on Julia AST beyond what LLVM does. Because of that, Octavian.jl beats openblas on many linalg benchmarks

  • Writing a SQLite clone from scratch in C
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Jul 2021
    You can try your luck with the "resurrected" C backend: https://github.com/JuliaComputingOSS/llvm-cbe

    I don't understand why I see so many requests for LLVM-based languages to change around their backend or IR, that seems to be a huge amount of work for comparatively little benefit. The correct thing to do there is to just add support for those to LLVM.

llvm-project

Posts with mentions or reviews of llvm-project. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-05-06.
  • platformio integration with neovim?
    2 projects | /r/neovim | 6 May 2023
    I forgot to say that I use this llvm build. Just download the release and point the clangd server to it.
  • LLVM 16.0.0 Release
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 18 Mar 2023
    Xtensa support (esp32). Will be interesting how this will be for Rust and Zig support for esp32

    https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/tree/main/llvm/lib/Targ...

    https://www.phoronix.com/news/LLVM-Xtensa-Backend

    https://github.com/espressif/llvm-project/issues/4#issuecomm...

    https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/5467#issuecomment-1465...

  • How do I program an ESP32 S3 in Rust using podman from WSL?
    6 projects | /r/rust | 27 Dec 2022
    Hopefully, in the future the installation will be simpler, as we are trying to upstream our LLVM changes (first 10 patches are already accepted!), and once we manage to upstream LLVM changes we will proceed with upstreaming our Rust fork changes.
  • Using Vim as an editor for ESP-IDF
    3 projects | /r/esp32 | 17 Oct 2022
    The main discussion can be led back to this GitHub issue and this comment; fortunately, we don't need to build espressif's llvm fork anymore as they supply the clangd (this is the language server we need) and you can find the zip here. I'll briefly list down the steps required to set up vim with clangd to take advantage of clangd's features (auto-completion, linting, code refactoring ...)
  • The more I use other MCUs the more I like the ESP32
    1 project | /r/esp32 | 1 Apr 2022
    In my case, it's pretty annoying that the Xtensa platform doesn't have official LLVM support. It's in progress but going very slowly.
  • Have you ever started a project in Rust but switched to a different language? If so, why?
    7 projects | /r/rust | 13 Mar 2022
    The link to the espressive issue trackers: https://github.com/espressif/llvm-project/issues/4
  • Are there situations where it's better to use C++?
    3 projects | /r/rust | 29 Nov 2021
    Xtensa. They've got a fork of LLVM that supports it that they're working toward getting upstreamed. The community has a fork of rustc that uses it (and a quickstart crate) while we wait for it to get upstreamed.
  • Rust and GCC, two different ways
    2 projects | /r/rust | 11 Oct 2021
    https://github.com/espressif/llvm-project/issues/4 is a good example why updating llvm isn't easy and takes a lot of time.
  • Tomu – An ARM microprocessor which fits in your USB port
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 2 Sep 2021
  • uLisp
    18 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 May 2021
    Just to clarify - Gambit, Chicken, and Carp all compile to portable C.

    I hadn't realized LLVM mainline doesn't support Xtensa. I'm surprised.

    D does support Xtensa via LDC (https://forum.dlang.org/thread/[email protected]...). It looks like GDC also nearly supports it, requiring only a minor patch at present.

    A functioning LLVM backend does exist (https://github.com/espressif/llvm-project/issues/4) and might be making very slow progress towards being merged. A quick search shows that it works for Rust. I suspect (but don't know) that it might work for Terra as well.

    There's also the LLVM C backend (https://github.com/JuliaComputingOSS/llvm-cbe) but I've no idea how efficient such an approach is when applied to real world embedded tasks.

What are some alternatives?

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mrustc - Alternative rust compiler (re-implementation)

Lua-RTOS-ESP32 - Lua RTOS for ESP32

nim-esp8266-sdk - Nim wrapper for the ESP8266 NON-OS SDK

terra - Terra is a low-level system programming language that is embedded in and meta-programmed by the Lua programming language.

prometeo - An experimental Python-to-C transpiler and domain specific language for embedded high-performance computing

ferret - Ferret is a free software lisp implementation for real time embedded control systems.

ulisp - A version of the Lisp programming language for ATmega-based Arduino boards.

acados - Fast and embedded solvers for nonlinear optimal control

ulisp-builder - Builds a version of uLisp for a particular platform from a common repository of source files

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tinyscheme - TinyScheme is easy to learn and modify. It is structured like a meta-interpreter, only it is written in C.