libcxx VS ocaml

If you are comparing hoops that library authors need to jump through in both languages, you can easily make the real-world comparison in the other direction, by comparing Rust's Option with C++'s std::optional (an exercise left for the reader): Rust std: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/library/core/src/option.rs libcxx: https://github.com/llvm-mirror/libcxx/blob/master/include/optional

My favorite prime number generator is the undocumented __next_prime():

https://github.com/llvm-mirror/libcxx/blob/78d6a7767ed57b501...

There is no good reason to use this one except in a code golf environment that includes all headers by default, which is where I learned about it.

I once read a Strousroup quote amounting to "If you understand std::vector, then you understand C++". I thought surely he couldn't have meant the interface but the implentation, googled that llvm's implementation is considered nice and clean, had a look, and noped straight out of there.

C++'s STL linked list for comparison (libcxx).

https://github.com/llvm-mirror/libcxx/blob/master/include/li...

> For example, accessing a std::span or a std::vector outside of its bounds would abort the program, and so would accessing an empty std::optional.

I don't really understand the difference with libc++, libstdc++ and msvc stl's respective debug modes, they already do exactly these checks :

- https://github.com/llvm-mirror/libcxx/blob/78d6a7767ed57b501...

- https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/blob/966010b2eb4a4c52f139b...

I mean it's not hard to read the source for your platform. On Linux/x86_64/libc++ it's roughly:

- https://github.com/llvm-mirror/libcxx/blob/master/include/__...

- https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=blob_plain;f=nptl/...

I don't particularly care to comb through it to see if anything has changed, but historically it was a a little spin-CAS to make the non-contended path fast and then dropping into a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futex, which is about as good as it gets for staying mostly in userspace but still letting it be scheduler aware so you're not burning up a core busy-polling, which is what often happens when people try to roll their own shit.

Google wants a bit more latitude on the heuristics and degrees of freedom around read/write ownership, so they did it like this: https://github.com/abseil/abseil-cpp/blob/master/absl/synchr... which is quite a bit better commented/legible.

If anyone reading this can do better than the `abseil-cpp` folks, not only would Google take their PR, they'd probably offer them a job.

> OCaml’s configure script is also “normal”

If that’s this OCaml, it has a configure.ac file in the root directory, which looks suspicious for an Autotools-free package: https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml

You probably already know, but with OCaml 5 the only way to get flamegraphs working is to either:

* use framepointers [1]

* use LBR (but LBR has a limited depth, and may not work on on all CPUs, I'm assuming due to bugs in perf)

* implement some deep changes in how perf works to handle the 2 stacks in OCaml (I don't even know if this would be possible), or write/adapt some eBPF code to do it

OCaml 5 has a separate stack for OCaml code and C code, and although GDB can link them based on DWARF info, perf DWARF call-graphs cannot (https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml/issues/12563#issuecomment-193...)

If you need more evidence to keep it enabled in future releases, you can use OCaml 5 as an example (unfortunately there aren't many OCaml applications, so that may not carry too much weight on its own).

[1]: I haven't actually realised that Fedora39 has already enabled FP by default, nice! (I still do most of my day-to-day profiling on an ~CentOS 7 system with 'perf --call-graph dwarf', I was aware that there was a discussion to enable FP by default, but haven't noticed it has actually been done already)

11. OCaml - $91,026

> It partially helps since it forces you to have types where they matters most: exported functions

But the problém the OP has is not knowing the types when reading the source (in the .ml file).

> How would it feels like to use list if only https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml/blob/trunk/stdlib/list.ml was available,

If the signature where in the source file (which you can do in OCaml too), there would be no problem - which is what all the other (for some definition of "other") languages except C and C++ (even Fortran) do.

No, really, I can't see a single advantage of separate .mli files at all. The real problém is that the documentation is often worse too, as the .mli is autogenerated and documented afterwards - and now changes made later in the sources need to be documented in the mli too, so anything that doesn't change the type often gets lost. The same happens in C and C++ with header files.

If you have been in the Ruby community for the past couple of years, it's possible that you're not a super fan of types or that this concept never passed through your mind, and that's totally cool. I myself love the dynamic and meta-programming nature of Ruby, and honestly, by the time of this article's writing, we aren't on the level of OCaml for type checking and inference, but still, there are a couple of nice things that types with sorbet bring to the table:

Looks like there have been proposals to eliminate use of 3 operand lea in OCaml code (not accepted sadly):

https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml/pull/8531

An amazing example is Ocaml lang logo / mascot. It might be useful to talk with them to know what was the process behind this work. The About page camel head on Perl dot org header is also a pretty good example of simplification, but it's not a logo, just a friendly illustration, as the O'Reilly camel is. Another notable logo for this animal is the well known tobacco industry company, but don't get me started on that (“good” logo, though, if we look at the effectiveness of their marketing).

Haskell and Agda are probably the most obvious examples. Ocaml too, but it is much older, so its type system is not as categorical. There is also Idris, which is not as well-known but is very cool.

That does sound problematic, but without the code it is hard to tell what is the issue. Typically, compiling a 6kLoc file like https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml/blob/trunk/typing/typecore.ml takes 0.8 s on my machine.