kakoune.el VS evil

Thanks for the tip, meow looks interesting. I never got comfortable in evil-mode, but perhaps meow could be a gateway to trying emacs in anger.

Still waiting for kakoune/helix mode for gnu readline...

https://github.com/meow-edit/meow

https://github.com/jmorag/kakoune.el

To build on what others are saying about Emacs, if you start exploring the package ecosystem, you're going to see quite a lot of really interesting packages that are related to improving/experimenting with the UX of editing text. While I'm not endorsing anyone in particular, I think what this list does show is just how easy it is to do pretty much whatever you want in Emacs;

https://karthinks.com/software/avy-can-do-anything/

https://github.com/jyp/boon

https://github.com/clemera/objed

https://github.com/jmorag/kakoune.el

https://github.com/meow-edit/meow/

https://github.com/xahlee/xah-fly-keys

https://github.com/Kungsgeten/ryo-modal

https://github.com/emacsorphanage/god-mode

Emacs 29 also now has treesitter and LSP mode integration built-in, a compilation mode, a comint mode for REPLs, excellent file browsing packages (I use dired/dirvish), and a few other killer features.

Now, if what you truly dislike are "quirky editors", prepare yourself for a world of hurt because vanilla Emacs departs quite a bit from "modern" text editors. I struggled with this for a while, but eventually by buying into the paradigm, I now feel that when emacs try emulating "modern" IDE features like autocompletion, LSP, and DAP UI, I feel like it's a regression, not a progression. The point here is that you might have an "idea" of what good initial UX and lack of quirks would look like, but Emacs might change the way you think.

If emacs had a layer for kakoune as comprehensive as evil, I think it would be a no-brainer, but such as it is, kakoune.el is the closest we have which isn't quite was I was hoping for.

Problem is, unlike the evil package linked above, which was last updated 6 days ago, the only package I've found for Kakoune is this one, which was last updated like a year ago.

I set up https://github.com/jmorag/kakoune.el and made some aesthetic changes, i think that EXWM came soon thereafter

kakoune.el: https://github.com/jmorag/kakoune.el

Shameless plug kakoune.el

Out of curiosity, what is it that makes you want to change from Kakoune? Perhaps something like terminal emacs with kakoune.el could be of interest to you.

I don't fully understand what you want - but about creating cards while you read https://kakoune.org could be interesting (there's a simple elisp clone: https://github.com/jmorag/kakoune.el). That way you can move along words while reading and if you want to turn a phrase into a card you can simply hold shift to continue marking the desired words and then yank them to somewhere.

evil mode

Since we already have vyper-mode, why not add Evil to the stack?

2 stripe blue belt here! I used to use Vim for everything other than Java development and have now adopted Emacs in the same way. I am using it for Clojure and Common Lisp development along with org mode, irc, rss, git and file management

I started with Evil mode and then moved to Xah fly keys before sticking to the emacs bindings. Having the caps lock key bound to CTRL helped me a lot. I don't know if it makes that much of a difference for Emacs but using the DVORAK layout has helped my fingers

There are other bindings you can try like Meow or God mode but I don't know what the adoption rate is like for them. Emacs gives you the flexibility to set it up as you please. As others have mentioned, there may be other keyboard options that might be more helpful as well

https://github.com/emacs-evil/evil

If you already know Vim, you should probably not use Emacs without Evil:

https://github.com/emacs-evil/evil

It gives you comprehensive Vim bindings so what you need to learn to be comfortable in Emacs is very little. As a bonus, it also keeps your RSI risk unchanged.

Emacs is a text ecosystem. And it's trivial to add these shortcuts. Evil[0] basically rewires everything to be Vim.

[0]: https://github.com/emacs-evil/evil

I would *highly* recommend using vim keybindings if you're just getting into it (Doom or just evil). I switched from vim to emacs and tried to rough it with the default keybindings thinking that otherwise I wasn't /really/ using emacs, but I was wrong! I've been using org-mode/emacs for ~2 years now and I've slowly been migrating everything into it as I find useful tools/modes/etc (and now thanks to u/ilemming I have ~12 more to experiment with 😂)

Despite using Emacs as my main editor, I was extremely familiar with Vim since I also used it frequently, and was able to use it quite well, especially because I also used [evil](https://github.com/emacs-evil/evil) in Emacs since Emacs's native keybindings are uncomfortable to use. I never used Vim as my primary editor though because it was cumbersome to configure. As many people say, Vimscript just feels wrong, so I gave up on trying to customize Vim.

uhm... this maybe? https://github.com/emacs-evil/evil

doom is a set of configuration files (to put it lightly 😅) for emacs, a text editor with really really powerful configuration abilities -- your "config files" are actually code in a full-fledged programming language, so people have done things like built package managers in it, or written full emulators for other text editors

Does it look like this? https://github.com/emacs-evil/evil/issues/1778