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hebigo
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What is the point of the if __name__ == "__main__":, i.e. why use a file as both script and module?
The Lissp transpiler incrementally compiles and executes each top-level form to Python. It needs to do this in case there's a macro definition that might affect the compilation of a subsequent form. If it's only executing definitions, this is harmless, but if you want to precompile the main module, it needs the guard, or the side effects will happen too.
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What's the most hilarious use of operator overloading you've seen?
If you want Python to be as customizable as Lissp, check out Hissp (and Hebigo).
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Want cleaner code? Use the rule of six
Python's lambdas can have as many lines as you want. Just wrap parens around it. Hissp uses this form as a compilation target. Its REPL shows the Python compilation. Play around with it til you get it: https://github.com/gilch/hissp
- What would be your “perfect” programming language?
- Kamby – A programming language based on Lisp that doesn't seems like Lisp
- Wisp: Whitespace to Lisp
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Is ECMAScript really a dialect of Lisp?
The original Lisp's S-expression syntax was just supposed to be an intermediate language used by the compiler when processing the real language based on M-expressions, which kind of never took off. Numerous alternatives to S-expressions have been proposed, and some retain homoiconicity, another feature diagnostic of a Lisp (and one that ECMAScript lacks). For example, see Hebigo's readme, which shows a direct correspondence between its Python-like syntax and that of Hissp's default reader (Lissp), which uses the S-expressions. Julia can also be written in S-expressions, but this usually only used in macro definitions.
- Why Hy?
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Land of Lisp
I think LoL is too CL-specific. If you know both languages first, you can pretty much translate, but since they'd be trying to learn Lisp in the first place, this is a bad idea.
On the other hand, [Hissp][1] has a pretty good tutorial for anyone coming from a Python background.
[1]: https://github.com/gilch/hissp
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Interesting or distinctive lisps?
Hebigo: a whitespaceLisp isomorphic to Hissp that looks like Python.
Fennel
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Did we lose our way in making efficient software? – ~30 MB doc file vs. browser
It's interesting: minimal software is out there, but folks don't tend to choose it. I spend a fair amount of time thinking about how to be conservative in my dependencies, and this encourages a lightweight stack that tends to perform pretty well. These days, I'm favoring tools like Lua, SQLite, Fennel[0], Althttpd[1], Fossil[2], and the Mako Server[3] and find that great, lightweight, stable, efficient software is to be had, for free, but you have to go a bit off the beaten path. This isn't stuff you hear about on Stack Overflow.
In terms of frontend, which the post focuses on (Google Docs and a 30MB doc), I guess I'm conflicted. While I tend to favor native apps + web pages, I'm also a daily Tiddlywiki user, and I really think web apps have their place (heck, one idea I'm working on is a lightweight local server that lets you run web apps like Tiddlywiki). But without a doubt, Tiddlywiki is more resource intensive than Emacs (my go-to for notetaking when I'm not on TW). My tab for a 6MB Tiddlywiki file uses 155MB of RAM, and my (heavily customized, dozens of open buffers) Emacs session uses 88MB. So I do think the author has a good point.
[0]: https://fennel-lang.org/
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Pluto, a Modern Lua Dialect
Eh it's not just luajit and luajit didn't create that problem either. It's a symptom of lua actually succeeding at its design goal of being easily embedded as an extension language. A significant number of incompatible runtimes are more popular than the most recent puc lua, including I believe the older official lua 5.2 released in 2011.
I've done a fair bit of professional lua development and I don't think I've ever written standalone up-to-date puc lua except maybe for some tooling & scripts. It's such a small language and used in such a way that the runtime, distribution method, and available APIs have much more impact on your use (and compatibility) than the version.
Virtually everyone shipping a lua environment is also shipping changes to it that make it a unique target, if only extensions to the standard library. This is why I think syntax layer-only approach like fennel's is the correct choice for improving on lua. It mirrors lua's runtime semantics exactly, and allows you to access the implementation peculiars on their own terms and so can just be run on time of any lua system.
https://fennel-lang.org
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LÖVE: a framework to make 2D games in Lua
Just learned about https://fennel-lang.org/ , could have probably used that as well to avoid Lua.
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The Bipolar Lisp Programmer
> I’m positive that there is a Lispy language out there (actually in existence, or the aether) that is appropriate for embedded work, but the constraints of the target make it difficult to envision.
Perhaps Fennel* fits the bill?
* https://fennel-lang.org/
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The Future of the Vim Project
I've also seen neovim plugins written in fennel [0], so if you want something lispy, that's possible now.
[0]: a Lisp that compiles to Lua, https://github.com/bakpakin/Fennel
- Qual a linguagem que vocês mais gostam de programar?
- Can I use elixir as the scripting language of my game engine?
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TimL: Clojure-like Lisp dialect that runs on and compiles down to Vimscript
Something similar: Fennel (https://fennel-lang.org/) is a lisp that compiles into Lua, which nvim can use as plugins, so you can write nvim plugins in a lisp. Aniseed (https://github.com/Olical/aniseed) makes this really easy.
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Announcing automation-service: write and schedule home automation scripts in Lua
If you want a more FP language on the Lua runtime, you might be interested in Fennel. I wrote a post about adding Fennel compiler to a hslua interpreter a while back, which might be useful for you.
- 916 Days of Emacs
What are some alternatives?
hy - A dialect of Lisp that's embedded in Python
janet - A dynamic language and bytecode vm
hy-lisp-python - examples for my book "A Lisp Programmer Living in Python-Land: The Hy Programming Language"
urn - Yet another Lisp variant which compiles to Lua
slime - The Superior Lisp Interaction Mode for Emacs
nvim-lspconfig - Quickstart configs for Nvim LSP
smtfmt - An SMT-LIB formatter.
Lua-RTOS-ESP32 - Lua RTOS for ESP32
smart-imports - smart imports for Python
lua-languages - Languages that compile to Lua
coalton - Coalton is an efficient, statically typed functional programming language that supercharges Common Lisp.
webassembly-lua - Write and compile WebAssembly code with Lua