grouparoo VS Next.js

Reverse ETL is on AirByte's roadmap under the "Future / Not prioritized" section. I wanted to use Grouparoo as a short term solution, but the repo was archived and I think they stopped taking new cloud customers (unknown if this is wrong/outdated).

There are other tools that we will have to adopt in the future but haven’t yet due to lack of necessity. Specifically, one category that is popular in modern data stacks is Reverse ETL (Hightouch, Census, or Grouparoo). We currently don’t have a usecase for piping data back into 3rd party tools but it will definitely come up in the future.

Reverse ETL: Grouparoo, Castled

Grouparoo, the open source Reverse ETL tool we are building, does all of these things. https://www.grouparoo.com

Ingestion / ETL: Airbyte, Singer, Jitsu Transformation: dbt Orchestration: Airflow, Dagster Testing: GreatExpectations Observability: Monosi Reverse ETL: Grouparoo, Castled Visualization: Lightdash, Superset

Grouparoo | Remote (US) | Remote-OK | https://www.grouparoo.com

Grouparoo is a venture-backed software company building open source data tools that make data reliable, accessible, and actionable. We’re empowering teams to make great customer experiences, driven by data. While engineering teams have gotten good at storing and generating data about their customers, it’s rare that this data is used to its full potential in external applications. Grouparoo makes these integrations easy by providing a framework for defining your customer data and reliably syncing it to external tools.

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Tech Stack: TypeScript / Javascript / Node.js, ActionHero, React + Next.js, Postgres & Redis, and whole lot of third-party APIs!

Congrats on the launch! Hightouch looks great and this need is real. Things seem to be going well, so I don't think I'm taking too much away by mentioning that we have been been working on Grouparoo, an open source alternative that solves similar pain points.

A few differences: git developer workflow focused (branches, CI, PRs, etc), ability to self host, segmentation in destinations (tagging people in mailchimp based on rules, for example)

https://www.grouparoo.com

We are building Grouparoo. Obviously, it's a biased sample but we are seeing a few trends at play.

Has anyone heard or used of reverse etl or Hightouch or open sourced Grouparoo?

https://github.com/vercel/next.js/discussions/27666 One of them said 'renaming folder to uppercase' might cause trouble. git might not recognize case-sensetive changes by default.

Next.js has long cemented itself as one of the front runners in the web framework world for JavaScript/TypeScript projects so we’re going to be using that. More specifically we’re going to be using V14 of Next.js which allows us to use some exciting new features like Server Actions and the App Router.

Web frameworks like Next.js will usually include this feature, but do check that they set the caching headers correctly!

Vite and Next.js are both top 5 modern development framework right now. They are both great depending on your use case so we’ll discuss 4 areas: Architecture, main features, developer experience and production readiness. After learning about these we’ll have a better idea of which one is best for your project.

> It’s important to be aware of what you are getting if you go with React, and what you are getting is a far cry from what a framework would offer, with all the corresponding pros and cons.

Would you like to elaborate on that?

In my experience, with something as great, size/ecosystem-wise as React, there will almost always be at least one "mainstream" package for whatever you might want to do with it, that integrates pretty well. Where a lot of things might come out of the box with a framework, with a library I often find myself just needing to install the "right" package, and from there it's pretty much the same.

For example, using https://angular.io/guide/i18n-overview or installing and using https://react.i18next.com/

Or something like https://angular.io/guide/form-validation out of the box, vs installing and using https://formik.org/

Or perhaps https://angular.io/guide/router vs https://reactrouter.com/en/main

Even adding something that's not there out of the box is pretty much the same, like https://primeng.org/ or https://primereact.org/

React will typically have more fragmentation and therefore also choice, but I don't see those two experiences as that different. Updates and version management/supply chain will inevitably be more of a mess with the library, admittedly.

Now, projects like Next https://nextjs.org/ exist and add what some might regard as the missing pieces and work well if you want something opinionated and with lots of features out of the box, but a lot of those features (like SSR) are actually pretty advanced and not always even necessary.

Next.js: For the website and the admin dashboard

Until the time of writing, there is no official example of how to enable runtime environmental variables in a Dockerized Next.js app, as utilizing unstable_noStore would only dynamically evaluate variables on the server (node.js runtime). There is also an interesting discussion regarding this topic on GitHub.

next.js is a very popular React framework. remix-adonisjs includes more functionality through the AdonisJS backend ecosystem, and should be easier to self-host and self-manage.

Cheryl Murphy is not only a dedicated full-stack web developer skilled in technologies like React, Next.js, and NestJs but also a community-driven professional who recently took on the role of volunteer project team lead at Web Dev Path. With a dual Bachelor's degree in Computing and Chemical Engineering from Monash University, Cheryl’s journey in tech is marked by a passion for building accessible solutions and a commitment to fostering community within tech.

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