A brief history of web development. And why your framework doesn't matter

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  • react-i18next

    Internationalization for react done right. Using the i18next i18n ecosystem.

  • > It’s important to be aware of what you are getting if you go with React, and what you are getting is a far cry from what a framework would offer, with all the corresponding pros and cons.

    Would you like to elaborate on that?

    In my experience, with something as great, size/ecosystem-wise as React, there will almost always be at least one "mainstream" package for whatever you might want to do with it, that integrates pretty well. Where a lot of things might come out of the box with a framework, with a library I often find myself just needing to install the "right" package, and from there it's pretty much the same.

    For example, using https://angular.io/guide/i18n-overview or installing and using https://react.i18next.com/

    Or something like https://angular.io/guide/form-validation out of the box, vs installing and using https://formik.org/

    Or perhaps https://angular.io/guide/router vs https://reactrouter.com/en/main

    Even adding something that's not there out of the box is pretty much the same, like https://primeng.org/ or https://primereact.org/

    React will typically have more fragmentation and therefore also choice, but I don't see those two experiences as that different. Updates and version management/supply chain will inevitably be more of a mess with the library, admittedly.

    Now, projects like Next https://nextjs.org/ exist and add what some might regard as the missing pieces and work well if you want something opinionated and with lots of features out of the box, but a lot of those features (like SSR) are actually pretty advanced and not always even necessary.

  • primereact

    The Most Complete React UI Component Library

  • > It’s important to be aware of what you are getting if you go with React, and what you are getting is a far cry from what a framework would offer, with all the corresponding pros and cons.

    Would you like to elaborate on that?

    In my experience, with something as great, size/ecosystem-wise as React, there will almost always be at least one "mainstream" package for whatever you might want to do with it, that integrates pretty well. Where a lot of things might come out of the box with a framework, with a library I often find myself just needing to install the "right" package, and from there it's pretty much the same.

    For example, using https://angular.io/guide/i18n-overview or installing and using https://react.i18next.com/

    Or something like https://angular.io/guide/form-validation out of the box, vs installing and using https://formik.org/

    Or perhaps https://angular.io/guide/router vs https://reactrouter.com/en/main

    Even adding something that's not there out of the box is pretty much the same, like https://primeng.org/ or https://primereact.org/

    React will typically have more fragmentation and therefore also choice, but I don't see those two experiences as that different. Updates and version management/supply chain will inevitably be more of a mess with the library, admittedly.

    Now, projects like Next https://nextjs.org/ exist and add what some might regard as the missing pieces and work well if you want something opinionated and with lots of features out of the box, but a lot of those features (like SSR) are actually pretty advanced and not always even necessary.

  • SurveyJS

    Open-Source JSON Form Builder to Create Dynamic Forms Right in Your App. With SurveyJS form UI libraries, you can build and style forms in a fully-integrated drag & drop form builder, render them in your JS app, and store form submission data in any backend, inc. PHP, ASP.NET Core, and Node.js.

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  • primeng

    The Most Complete Angular UI Component Library

  • > It’s important to be aware of what you are getting if you go with React, and what you are getting is a far cry from what a framework would offer, with all the corresponding pros and cons.

    Would you like to elaborate on that?

    In my experience, with something as great, size/ecosystem-wise as React, there will almost always be at least one "mainstream" package for whatever you might want to do with it, that integrates pretty well. Where a lot of things might come out of the box with a framework, with a library I often find myself just needing to install the "right" package, and from there it's pretty much the same.

    For example, using https://angular.io/guide/i18n-overview or installing and using https://react.i18next.com/

    Or something like https://angular.io/guide/form-validation out of the box, vs installing and using https://formik.org/

    Or perhaps https://angular.io/guide/router vs https://reactrouter.com/en/main

    Even adding something that's not there out of the box is pretty much the same, like https://primeng.org/ or https://primereact.org/

    React will typically have more fragmentation and therefore also choice, but I don't see those two experiences as that different. Updates and version management/supply chain will inevitably be more of a mess with the library, admittedly.

    Now, projects like Next https://nextjs.org/ exist and add what some might regard as the missing pieces and work well if you want something opinionated and with lots of features out of the box, but a lot of those features (like SSR) are actually pretty advanced and not always even necessary.

  • Next.js

    The React Framework

  • > It’s important to be aware of what you are getting if you go with React, and what you are getting is a far cry from what a framework would offer, with all the corresponding pros and cons.

    Would you like to elaborate on that?

    In my experience, with something as great, size/ecosystem-wise as React, there will almost always be at least one "mainstream" package for whatever you might want to do with it, that integrates pretty well. Where a lot of things might come out of the box with a framework, with a library I often find myself just needing to install the "right" package, and from there it's pretty much the same.

    For example, using https://angular.io/guide/i18n-overview or installing and using https://react.i18next.com/

    Or something like https://angular.io/guide/form-validation out of the box, vs installing and using https://formik.org/

    Or perhaps https://angular.io/guide/router vs https://reactrouter.com/en/main

    Even adding something that's not there out of the box is pretty much the same, like https://primeng.org/ or https://primereact.org/

    React will typically have more fragmentation and therefore also choice, but I don't see those two experiences as that different. Updates and version management/supply chain will inevitably be more of a mess with the library, admittedly.

    Now, projects like Next https://nextjs.org/ exist and add what some might regard as the missing pieces and work well if you want something opinionated and with lots of features out of the box, but a lot of those features (like SSR) are actually pretty advanced and not always even necessary.

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