fx-private-relay VS ungoogled-chromium

That isn't alarmist, but almost all privacy features in Brave are already in Firefox as well. Looking at this page:

- Chromium customizations: Not necessary in Firefox

- Client-side encryption for Brave Sync: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-firefox-sync-keeps-...

- DeAMPing: I think AMP has been dead for a few years now

- Limiting network server calls: I think this is a bit tangential to privacy, limiting calls is generally good but it doesn't mean you're transmitting less information. Brave's post comparing different browsers' first startup network calls is from 2019, not sure how Firefox performs today.

- Query parameter filtering: https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/toolkit/components/a...

- Better partitioning for better privacy: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Privacy/State_P...

- Referrer policy improvements: https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2021/03/22/firefox-87-trim...

- Fine grained / temporary permissions API: This is nice, I don't think Firefox has this.

- Social media blocking: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enhanced-tracking-prote...

- Bounce tracking protections: https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2020/08/04/firefox-79-incl...

- Limiting the life of Javascript: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-rolls-o.... Not explicitly mentioned but I believe Firefox does have this 7 day limit as well, in addition to other protections.

- Private windows with Tor: Firefox doesn't have built-in Tor integration, but the actual Tor Browser is built from Firefox.

I think Firefox also has one or two features that Brave does not, like Multi-Account Containers, and some paid services like https://relay.firefox.com/.

> In a sense, it sounds like the advice of the services is less subscribing to them than trying not to have a few e-mails that map to your personal identity.

Firefox Relay is a great way to do that :) https://relay.firefox.com

Integrating that with Monitor is pretty high on at least my personal wish list.

In case you're interested, Firefox Relay uses that stack and is open source: https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay/

> In what ways has mozilla meaningfully dared to try and expand their revenue streams?

I think that Mozilla VPN is pretty nice. It's based on Mullvad VPN, so they seem to know their audience (given that Mullvad has a pretty okay reputation among many tech savvy or privacy conscious folks, a lot of which probably use something like Firefox as well): https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/vpn/

I guess there's also Firefox Relay, for those who might benefit from something like that: https://relay.firefox.com/

Not many other products to give them money for come to mind, though.

I've been dragging around a similar concern. My solution might be to use Mozilla's Relay for the email and Privacy.com for the credit card.

https://relay.firefox.com/

https://privacy.com/

That won't stop the data collection but it should mitigate how useful it is. Maybe?

Firefox Relay offers "randomized" phone numbers along with its emails: https://relay.firefox.com

It has access to your entire account. I created a new microsoft account via https://relay.firefox.com/

Cromite[0] is the best on Android, it's a privacy-oriented open source patchset on top of Chromium.

Cromite has a desktop build, but it's a bit more experimental than the mobile build, so you can use Ungoogled Chromium[1] instead. Ungoogled is also a privacy-oriented open source patchset on top of Chromium. Check the beta flags to enable some more interesting features like getClientRect anti-fingerprinting measures (unfortunately breaks some React-based sites that go into infinite re-render loop).

Both of these browsers selectively include patches from Brave, but they are community-oriented builds so imo more trustworthy than Brave, which continues to package various shady anti-features and always will because it's backed by a for-profit company.

LibreWolf[2] is the nicest Firefox-based one for desktop, I think. It's pretty hardcore, though, I most only use it to visit mainstream social media sites.

I tried a bunch of the Firefox-based ones on mobile and none of them clicked for me. Cromite is just too slick on Android. Put the address bar at the bottom and off you go. Only downside is no online syncing of tabs and bookmarks, but meh. You can save all open tabs to bookmark bar in one hit then export your bookmarks, send the file through whatever E2EE channel you want to your other device and import then reopen them again.

[0] https://github.com/uazo/cromite

[1] https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium

[2] https://librewolf.net/

For those that like Chromium but want to remove any integration with Google, there's Ungoogled Chromium

https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium

If you're entirely partial to Chromium browsers, use Ungoogled Chrome https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium

what about https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium

Firefox or Ungoogled Chromium (needs to update uBlock manually) in Incognito window with unchanged vanilla uBlock Origin with lists updated and no other plugins and without YouTube account. Works perfectly. Also FreeTube.

Ungoogled Chromium is a Chromium-based browser with Google services stripped out.

- Project and source: https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium

- Binaries: https://ungoogled-software.github.io/ungoogled-chromium-bina...

Using these sort of downstream patch set browsers is rarely a good idea. If it has multiple full-time developers from a respected org dedicated to it, then it can be justifiable (Tor Browser, Brave), but take a look at the gaps in time for these two pages:

https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium/rel...

https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/c/ch...

There's often days you're going without security patches. If you want a browser without Google tracking, Firefox is a much better choice.

While these screenshots use Google Chrome, they will also work on all 'Chromium' based web browsers, like Brave, Vivaldi, ungoogled-chromium, etc. Window's Edge is also compatible, though some the button locations are changed.

I would highly recommend the Ungoogled Chromium fork instead: https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium

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