Converse.js
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Converse.js
- ConverseJS 10.1.7 with an important XEP-0474 support fix used in ejabberd – XMPP
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How to build an AI chatbot with Openfire and OpenAI Chat Completion
ConverseJS is a popular Javascript XMPP client that implements a full range of XMPP extensions. Also available as a plugin for openfire — inverse-openfire-plugin and can be installed on openfire with a few clicks.
- Converse.js 10.1.2
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An actually private messaging self hosted server
I agree. IMHO the best variant is then to use something that is truely free. Like XMPP. There are a lot of servers and many clients to chose from and I can strongly recommend converse.js as a web client. It supports different ways of end to end encryption but I would recommend OMEMO which is basically the same encryption idea that you find in Signal.
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Xmpp Bot with its own address.
Hello, I recently started exploring xmpp, with snikket app and conversejs.org
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Matrix was worth the effort to self host.
It is Converse.js (https://conversejs.org/) packaged into a one-click install for openfire (from the web admin). So, one-click install for an xmpp web client.
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Ask HN: What is your recommended stack for real time chat?
My choice, because it's the stack I know very well, would be Prosody ( https://prosody.im/ - I'm one of the devs) and a web client such as Converse.js ( https://conversejs.org/ ). XMPP is highly extensible, Prosody is highly modular, which make them a good foundation for building on top of.
That said, the right stack is generally the one that matches your requirements, and (if this isn't primarily a learning exercise) whatever you're most familiar with. The hardest part of building a Discord or Slack-like in 2022 is actually not the technical stuff. There are many comprehensive open-source products already out there that compete with these companies, such as Mattermost, RocketChat and Element.
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No white list registering with conversejs.org
Tried to register with conversejs.org today and got an error "your IP is not whitelisted".
- Best open source protocol to fork?
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NEEE HELP!
Maybe you are remembering this bug from some months ago? It appeared exactly as if this was (accidentally) uploading keys to the user's XMPP server (not Converse.js's server) and publishing them.
Synapse
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Organizing OpenStreetMap Mapping Parties
What are you thinking of here? Synapse has supported purging room history since 2016: https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/pull/911, and configurable data retention since 2019: https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/pull/5815.
Meanwhile, Matrix has never needed the full room history to be synchronised - when a server joins a room, it typically only grabs the last 20 messages. (It does needs to grab all the key-value state about the room, although these days that happens gradually in the background).
If you're wondering why Matrix implementations are often greedy on disk space, it's because they typically cache the key-value state aggressively (storing a snapshot of it for the room on a regular basis). However, that's just an implementation quirk; folks could absolutely come up with fancier datastructures to store it more efficiently; it's just not got to the top of anyone's todo list yet - things like performance and UX are considered much more important than disk usage right now.
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GrapheneOS is moving off Matrix
some context re the Matrix isses, long history apparently: https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/14481#issuecomm...
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Non-profit Matrix.org Foundation seems to be moving funds to for-profit Element
Why not Matrix? Here's one reason: it has incredibly hard-to-debug edge cases, and plenty of bugs. One of my favourites is the one where people are kicked out of your room at random, which was reported a year ago[0]. It wasn't fixed, however, because the head of the Matrix foundation (Matthew) presumably didn't like the issue being posted on Twitter.
This is honestly really disappointing behaviour from a platform owner.
[0]: https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/14481
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The Future of Synapse and Dendrite
> That doesn't make this situation any less bad to the rest of the community.
How is the community suffering here? Let's say Element adds a bunch of baller stuff to their versions over the next few months and then closes the source. Can't the community just fork the last AGPL version? You might say, "well then no one can take the AGPL fork and make their own closed-source business", but do you want them to? Even if you do, they still can with the existing Apache-licensed version, just like Element is doing right now.
You're arguing that Element will lose a lot of contributions, but TFA points out that despite being super open, the vast majority of contributions are still made by Element employees (which seems to be true [0]). It's not the case that Element is looking to monetize the (small) contributions of others, it is the case that others are looking to monetize the (huge) contributions of Element.
And besides, aren't the MSCs the core of Matrix? It's already super possible to build your own compliant client and server.
The situation is that Element needs money to keep developing the ecosystem. It would be cool if there were a big network of donors and contributions, but there isn't. You're essentially saying, "that's fine, go out of business then, and the community will keep developing the ecosystem", but that's not happening now, and it can still happen anyway with the Apache-licensed versions, which again people can still contribute to.
[0]: https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/graphs/contributors
- Synapse v1.95.0 Released
- Matrix Synapse how use python scripts?
- Synapse v1.91.2 Released
- Synapse v1.89.0 is out
- Synapse v1.88.0 is out
- Synapse v1.87.0 (Matrix Server) Released
What are some alternatives?
JSXC - :speech_balloon: Real-time xmpp chat application with video calls, file transfer and encrypted communication.
dendrite - Dendrite is a second-generation Matrix homeserver written in Go!
Movim - Movim - Decentralized social platform
conduit
Candy - JavaScript-based multi-user chat client for XMPP.
Rocket.Chat - The communications platform that puts data protection first.
Kaiwa - [UNMAINTAINED] A modern XMPP Web client
Jitsi Meet - Jitsi Meet - Secure, Simple and Scalable Video Conferences that you use as a standalone app or embed in your web application.
Kontalk - Kontalk official Android client
Mattermost - Mattermost is an open source platform for secure collaboration across the entire software development lifecycle..
CHVote - Electronic vote system, version 1.
matrix-docker-ansible-deploy - 🐳 Matrix (An open network for secure, decentralized communication) server setup using Ansible and Docker