cargo-gccrs VS min-sized-rust

We have `cargo-gccrs` for this, so a cargo subcommand which intercepts arguments given to `rustc` and converts them into `gccrs` arguments :)

https://github.com/rust-GCC/cargo-gccrs/

it's still in a relatively early stage as we are focusing on the compiler. But the idea is for it to be a drop-in replacement for compilation and execution operations, so you'd have `cargo gccrs build`, `cargo gccrs run`, `cargo gccrs test`, etc

gccrs is the compiler (like rustc). You can use cargo with gccrs : https://github.com/Rust-GCC/cargo-gccrs

See https://github.com/Rust-GCC/cargo-gccrs. There will definetly some sort of cargo support in the end. Either by having a behave-like-rustc wrapper around gccrs or by adding support directly to cargo or a cargo fork.

Cargo support for gccrs is part of this project:

https://github.com/Rust-GCC/cargo-gccrs

Moreover, modules are less interesting to me in embedded development as is access to Rust's borrow checker for gaining certainty of small portions of larger projects, which are written in other languages.

- With the [cargo-gccrs](https://github.com/Rust-GCC/cargo-gccrs/) we want to integrate gccrs as seamless as possible into the Rust ecosystem. So yes.

This is a good guide on building small Rust binaries: https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust

This talks about going to extreme lengths on making the smallest Rust binary possible, 400 bytes when it was written, https://darkcoding.net/software/a-very-small-rust-binary-ind...

The thing is, you lose a lot of nice features when you do this, like panic unwinding, debug symbols, stdlib… for kernel and some embedded development it’s definitely important, but for most use cases, does it matter?

Oh it was 137, haha. I will link you to this older comment of mine: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29408906

See also https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust

Are you sure? If so then this is awesome news, but I'm a bit confused; the commit in that min-sized-rust repo adding `build-std` to the README was merged in August 2021: https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust/pull/30

Are you saying that at that point the feature still hadn't "landed in Rust nightly" until recently? If so then what's the difference between a feature just being available in Rust nightly, vs having "landed"?

Rust binaries are by default nowhere close to 500MB. If they are not small enough for you, you can try https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust. By avoiding the formatting machinery and using `panic_immediate_abort` you can get about the size of C binaries.

A useful reference: https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust

That must be without stripping. Also there are ways to reduce binary size. See e.g. [min-sized-rust](https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust). I've gotten stripped binaries of small cli utils less than 400KiB without doing anything special, less than 150 KiB by customizing profile settings and compressing with upx, and less than 30 KiB by replacing the std with the libc as the link shows. Haven't tried with fltk though...

This is not quite what you're asking, but it does also address the underlying concern: https://github.com/johnthagen/min-sized-rust