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Apache License 2.0 | Apache License 2.0 |
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cargo-crev
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Hard disk LEDs and noisy machines
In other cases it may be more documented, such as Golangs baked-in telemetry.
There should be better ways to check these problems. The best I have found so far is Crev https://github.com/crev-dev/crev/. It's most used implementation is Cargo-crev https://github.com/crev-dev/cargo-crev, but hopefully it will become more required to use these types of tools. Certainty and metrics about how many eyes have been on a particular script, and what expertise they have would be a huge win for software.
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Rust Without Crates.io
The main problem the author is talking about is actually about version updates, which in Maven as well as crates.io is up to each lib's author, and is not curated in any way.
There's no technical solution to that, really. Do you think Nexus Firewall can pick up every exploit, or even most? How confident of that are you, and what data do you have to back that up? I don't have any myself, but would not be surprised at all if "hackers" can easily work around their scanning.
However, I don't have a better approach than using scanning tools like Nexus, or as the author proposes, use a curated library repository like Debian is doing (which hopefully gets enough eyeballs to remain secure) or the https://github.com/crev-dev/cargo-crev project (manually reviewed code) also mentioned. It's interesting that they mention C/C++ just rely on distros providing dynamic libs instead which means you don't even control your dependencies versions, some distro does (how reliable is the distro?)... I wonder if that could work for other languages or if it's just as painful as it looks in the C world.
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I don't care about cookies” extension bought by Avast, users jump ship
For instance, the worst company imaginable may be in charge of software that was once FOSS, and they may change absolutely nothing about it, so it should be fine. However, if a small update is added that does something bad, you should know about it immediately.
The solution seems to be much more clearly in the realm of things like crev: https://github.com/crev-dev/cargo-crev/
Wherein users can get a clear picture of what dependencies are used in the full chain, and how they have been independently reviewed for security and privacy. That's the real solution for the future. A quick score that is available upon display everytime you upgrade, with large warnings for anything above a certain threshold.
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I think there should be some type of crates vertification especially the popular ones?
The metrics on crates.io are a useful sniff test, but ultimately you need to review things yourself, or trust some contributors and reviewers. Some projects, like cargo crev or cargo vet can help with the process.
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[Discussion] What crates would you like to see?
You can use cargo-geiger or cargo-crev to check for whether people you trusted (e.g. u/jonhoo ) trust this crate.
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Pip and cargo are not the same
There is a similar idea being explored with https://github.com/crev-dev/cargo-crev - you trust a reviewer who reviews crates for trustworthiness, as well as other reviewers.
- greater supply chain attack risk due to large dependency trees?
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Why so many basic features are not part of the standard library?
[cargo-crev](https://github.com/crev-dev/cargo-crev) looks like a good step in the right direction but not really commonly used.
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“You meant to install ripgrep”
'cargo crev' makes this kind of workflow possible: https://github.com/crev-dev/cargo-crev
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Difference between cargo-vet and cargo-crev?
The crev folks themselves are no fans of PGP but need a way to security identify that you are in fact the review author, so that's where the id generation comes in. Ultimately crev is just a bunch of repos with text files you sign with IDs. The nice property is that you can chain these together into a web of trust and it's unfortunate that vet doesn't just use the same signed files on repos model as a foundation because even if they don't trust anyone else, we could turn around and trust them.
Ory Keto
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Show HN: Blueprint for a distributed multi-region IAM with Go and CockroachDB
One of Ory’s core competencies is permissions. We built the first Google Zanzibar implementation in the world and it’s part of Ory Network‘s global multi-region platform (https://github.com/ory/keto)
A push model is also valid if you’re heavy on policies and can accept eventual consistency. We will investigate how to generally push things to the edge (like we did with Ory Edge Sessions) or to cryptographic verification wherever staleness is acceptable.
By solving the primitives correctly in the beginning (with a multi region architecture) that job does become a lot easier, which is what we decided doing at Ory :)
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Show HN: Open-source IAM Ory Kratos v1.0 with Passkeys, MFA and multi-region
slightly off-topic, but related to what ory is doing in general. How do you usually do authorization-aware search?
Imagine, I have a bunch of Google docs and using https://github.com/ory/keto for authorization. I can quickly answer the question "does user X have access to document Y", but it is not easy to do "search all documents with word Hello in it, for which I have access" because access can be granted through nested groups (give read access to everyone in DepartmentA, and I am part of child department)
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how to design database for Access Control Privileges ?
if you want to integrate an existing framework see if https://github.com/ory/keto solves your problems, there are similiar frameworks that support ABAC
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Understanding Google Zanzibar and Why Shines at Building Permissions
Shameless plug for Ory Keto, probably the best reference implementation IMO https://github.com/ory/keto
- We built an open source authorization service based on Google Zanzibar
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Open-source authorization service and policy engine based on Google Zanzibar
Looks cool, wonder how it compares to Keto and Casbin.
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Launch HN: Warrant (YC S21) – Authorization and access control as a service
How does Warrant compare to other Zanzibar based solutions like Ory Keto ?https://github.com/ory/keto
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Show HN: Open-source authorization service based on Google-Zanzibar
Interesting to see another project open sourced around Google Zanzibar. On a timeline for context:
- Ory came out first with Ory Keto ( https://github.com/ory/keto ) which is trying to be a close adaptation of the paper. Initially, many concepts were missing but they are making a lot of progress with the DSL and it interfaces with the rest of Ory (OAuth2, User Mangement)
- Authzed came out as a SaaS only, open sorucing the code base later on at https://github.com/authzed/spicedb
- Auth0 has been playing around with Zanzibar concepts in various forms and published a beta service at https://dashboard.fga.dev - apparently now also open source parts of it similar to what Authzed did: https://github.com/openfga
- Permify - who on a side note spammed me quite a lot with outreach because I was active in these communities - joins as well https://github.com/Permify/permify
It's exciting to see so much movement, yet also sad that so many companies are brewing their own beer instead of working collaborative on the more succesful projects. Feels like we'll just end up with one or two successful projects (looking at Ory / Auth0 here) with the rest perishing. I'm wondering if there truly is a business model for just this permission system as a saas service (looks like this is what everyone is going with). Here I'm giving Auth0 probably the biggest plus as they have an established identity service. Then again, Okta (parent of Auth0) and Auth0 themselves are not particularly known for good business practices that we usually expect from developer tooling.
What's refreshing though with Permify is that they are trying a bit of a different approach to Zanzibar!
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Zanzibar-like authorization framework written in Go
Er, Ory Keto is written in Go.
What are some alternatives?
crates.io - The Rust package registry
OPA (Open Policy Agent) - Open Policy Agent (OPA) is an open source, general-purpose policy engine.
stackage - Stable Haskell package sets: vetted consistent packages from Hackage
spicedb - Open Source, Google Zanzibar-inspired permissions database to enable fine-grained access control for customer applications
crates.io-index - Registry index for crates.io
casbin - An authorization library that supports access control models like ACL, RBAC, ABAC in Golang: https://discord.gg/S5UjpzGZjN
serde - Serialization framework for Rust
Keycloak - Open Source Identity and Access Management For Modern Applications and Services
cargo-msrv - 🦀 Find the minimum supported Rust version (MSRV) for your project
cerbos - Cerbos is the open core, language-agnostic, scalable authorization solution that makes user permissions and authorization simple to implement and manage by writing context-aware access control policies for your application resources.
Rustup - The Rust toolchain installer
Ory Kratos - Next-gen identity server replacing your Auth0, Okta, Firebase with hardened security and PassKeys, SMS, OIDC, Social Sign In, MFA, FIDO, TOTP and OTP, WebAuthn, passwordless and much more. Golang, headless, API-first. Available as a worry-free SaaS with the fairest pricing on the market!