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For example, an activity of 9.0 indicates that a project is amongst the top 10% of the most actively developed projects that we are tracking.
cargo-crev
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Hard disk LEDs and noisy machines
In other cases it may be more documented, such as Golangs baked-in telemetry.
There should be better ways to check these problems. The best I have found so far is Crev https://github.com/crev-dev/crev/. It's most used implementation is Cargo-crev https://github.com/crev-dev/cargo-crev, but hopefully it will become more required to use these types of tools. Certainty and metrics about how many eyes have been on a particular script, and what expertise they have would be a huge win for software.
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Rust Without Crates.io
The main problem the author is talking about is actually about version updates, which in Maven as well as crates.io is up to each lib's author, and is not curated in any way.
There's no technical solution to that, really. Do you think Nexus Firewall can pick up every exploit, or even most? How confident of that are you, and what data do you have to back that up? I don't have any myself, but would not be surprised at all if "hackers" can easily work around their scanning.
However, I don't have a better approach than using scanning tools like Nexus, or as the author proposes, use a curated library repository like Debian is doing (which hopefully gets enough eyeballs to remain secure) or the https://github.com/crev-dev/cargo-crev project (manually reviewed code) also mentioned. It's interesting that they mention C/C++ just rely on distros providing dynamic libs instead which means you don't even control your dependencies versions, some distro does (how reliable is the distro?)... I wonder if that could work for other languages or if it's just as painful as it looks in the C world.
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I don't care about cookies” extension bought by Avast, users jump ship
For instance, the worst company imaginable may be in charge of software that was once FOSS, and they may change absolutely nothing about it, so it should be fine. However, if a small update is added that does something bad, you should know about it immediately.
The solution seems to be much more clearly in the realm of things like crev: https://github.com/crev-dev/cargo-crev/
Wherein users can get a clear picture of what dependencies are used in the full chain, and how they have been independently reviewed for security and privacy. That's the real solution for the future. A quick score that is available upon display everytime you upgrade, with large warnings for anything above a certain threshold.
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I think there should be some type of crates vertification especially the popular ones?
The metrics on crates.io are a useful sniff test, but ultimately you need to review things yourself, or trust some contributors and reviewers. Some projects, like cargo crev or cargo vet can help with the process.
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[Discussion] What crates would you like to see?
You can use cargo-geiger or cargo-crev to check for whether people you trusted (e.g. u/jonhoo ) trust this crate.
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Pip and cargo are not the same
There is a similar idea being explored with https://github.com/crev-dev/cargo-crev - you trust a reviewer who reviews crates for trustworthiness, as well as other reviewers.
- greater supply chain attack risk due to large dependency trees?
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Why so many basic features are not part of the standard library?
[cargo-crev](https://github.com/crev-dev/cargo-crev) looks like a good step in the right direction but not really commonly used.
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“You meant to install ripgrep”
'cargo crev' makes this kind of workflow possible: https://github.com/crev-dev/cargo-crev
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Difference between cargo-vet and cargo-crev?
The crev folks themselves are no fans of PGP but need a way to security identify that you are in fact the review author, so that's where the id generation comes in. Ultimately crev is just a bunch of repos with text files you sign with IDs. The nice property is that you can chain these together into a web of trust and it's unfortunate that vet doesn't just use the same signed files on repos model as a foundation because even if they don't trust anyone else, we could turn around and trust them.
Rustup
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Problem with rust-analyzer in helix
I got it to finally work by following this
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Do you use relative toolchain paths with rustup? Let us know!
If you are someone actively using such relative-path toolchains, please contact us (Discord / Github issues).
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Canonical hiring Rust toolchain dev
We had a snap package; we removed it in mid 2022
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Announcing Rustup 1.26.0 | Rust Blog
I don't know. The PR references prior discussion without a link, so it may have been private.
- Foundation - Open Membership
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Telemetry really goes into Go toolchain, no matter what
As long as he doesn't put hidden folders in your root like rust. https://github.com/rust-lang/rustup/issues/341
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telemetry in the go toolchain? just say no...
I think you're being upvoted by folks who don't know better, which is a shame because you're making things up :/. The telemetry feature in rustup kept everything local and never "pinged home". And you had to enable it with a command `rustup telemetry enable`. And it just logged JSON files at the path you mentioned. By 2019, the feature was disabled (see: https://github.com/rust-lang/rustup/issues/341 ) because no one worked on it and it just gathered bugs.
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Go claims telemetry objectors arguing in bad faith and violating Code of Conduct
FWIW, there is a proposal to add telemetry to LLVM [0] and Rust used to have telemetry [1], both off by default. Some things in the node.js world have telemetry enabled by default, like Next.js [3].
Some people are posting here as if this as already decided -- AFIACT, that's not the case. It's not even a formal proposal yet, and the stated intent was to start a conversation around something concrete. (For context, this is standard for how I've seen the Go project approaches large topics, including for example I think there were something like ~8 very detailed generics design drafts from the core Go team over ~10 years).
It sounds like the Go team is going to take some time to look into some of the alternative approaches suggested in the feedback collected so far.
In any event, this is obviously a topic people are very passionate about, especially opt-in vs. opt-out, but I guess I would suggest not giving up hope quite yet.
[0] https://discourse.llvm.org/t/rfc-lldb-telemetry-metrics/6458...
[1] https://github.com/rust-lang/rustup/issues/341
[2] https://nextjs.org/telemetry
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Google's Go may add telemetry reporting that's on by default
Rust (Specifically Rust Up) seems to have planned to include telemetry but they paused and cancelled the decision, possibly after implementing it initially.
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Who "owns" Rust ?
https://github.com/rust-lang/rustup/issues/341 and rust installation uses telemetry
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