immer VS Visual Studio Code

I've been working on an editor (not text) in C++ and pretty early got into undo/redo. I went down the route of doIt/undoIt for commands but that quickly got old. There was both the extra work needed to implement undo separately for every operation, but also the nagging feeling that the undo operation for some operation wasn't implemented correctly.

In the end, I switched to representing the entire document state using persistent data structures (using the immer library). This vastly simplified things and implementing undo/redo becomes absolutely trivial when using persistent data structures. It's probably not something that is suitable for all domains, but worth checking out.

https://github.com/arximboldi/immer

How does this compare to https://github.com/arximboldi/immer (other than the C/C++ difference)?

Also, it's my understanding that, in practice, persistent data structures require a garbage collector in order to handle deallocation when used in a general-purpose way. How does your implementation handle that?

You might be interested in ewig and immer by Juan Pedro Bolivar Puente:

https://github.com/arximboldi/ewig

https://github.com/arximboldi/immer

See the author instantly opening a ~1GB text file with async loading, paging through, copying/pasting, and undoing/redoing in their prototype “ewig” text editor about 27 minutes into their talk here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sPhpelUfu8Q

It’s backed by a “vector of vectors” data structure called a relaxed radix balanced tree:

https://infoscience.epfl.ch/record/169879/files/RMTrees.pdf

That original paper has seen lots of attention and attempts at performance improvements, such as:

https://hypirion.com/musings/thesis

https://github.com/hyPiRion/c-rrb

You’re absolutely right, however people have been putting in the “extra efforts” required for efficiency. Check out immer if you’re interested.

The C++ immer library: https://github.com/arximboldi/immer

For C++ check this one out - https://github.com/arximboldi/immer

Yeah I agree that I should link that wikipedia page in the docs, I'll do that as soon as I get a chance. immer (https://github.com/arximboldi/immer) also links that page in its docs, for the exact same reason I'm sure. Interestingly, there is a lot of overlap between persistent data structures in the functional programming sense and persistent data structures in the persisted-to-disk sense because persistent data structures in the FP sense are one of the best ways to guarantee atomic updates and safe failure recovery in a persisted-to-disk system! Btrfs and ZFS, as well as many databases, are at their core basically just copy-on-write B+ trees.

I’ve never tried it, but I love the idea of implementing editor scene state using immutable data structures like https://github.com/arximboldi/immer With that, every edit would append a new node to a list of scene states. Undo/redo becomes iterating your view of the scene up and down through that list. Can’t screw up an undo function if there’s never any work to do :P

I have! I think it's related to the C++ immer library which I used several years ago in Vortex. It's kinda like the previous generation of ValueScript. 🍻

Download any code editor e.g. VS code. Visual Studio code which is a code editor with support for development operations like debugging, task running, and version control. Go to https://code.visualstudio.com

A code editor (VS Code is my go-to IDE), but feel free to use any code editor you're comfortable with.

First, grab your favorite command-line tool, Terminal or Warp, and a code editor, preferably VS Code and let’s begin.

C# is very good as a language, have developed in it for 5+ years. The problem is the gap between what MSFT promises to management and actually delivers to developers. You really really need to fully read the fine print, think of the omissions in documentation and implement a proof-of-concept that almost implements the full solution to find out the hidden gotchas.

For example, even probably their best product VS Code only got reasonable multiple screens support last year: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/10121#issuecommen...

And then, on the other end of the spectrum, you have Teams.

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I had a near-identical experience. I looked into switching in 2019 and ran into this 2016 bug which was a showstopper for me. Fixed it myself, grand total 4 line diff. https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/10643

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