aioquic VS quiche

One of the interesting patterns happening in Rust is io-less libraries. I'm not sure where best to link this phenomenon. It here s a open issue for an io-less quic library, from 2019, https://github.com/aiortc/aioquic/issues/4

It'd be so fracking sweet to see filesystems follow this pattern. If we could re-use the file system logic, but apply it to windows or fuse or Linux or wasm linearly-addressed-storage, that would allow such intensely cool forms of portability/reuse & bending/hacking.

for those wishing to use http3 with a Python web framework, the ASGI hypercorn[1] currently supports it.

made a Django example last week with a sample client based on the examples from aioquic[2]: https://github.com/djstein/django-http3-example

this example also includes the first pass at async Django REST Framework using adrift[3] based on these GitHub issues:

- https://github.com/encode/django-rest-framework/pull/8617

- https://github.com/encode/django-rest-framework/issues/8496

sources

[1]: https://github.com/pgjones/hypercorn

[2]: https://github.com/aiortc/aioquic

[2]: https://github.com/em1208/adrf

In your estimation where does the QUIC specification, HTTP/3 specification, WebTransport specification, aioquic QUIC and HTTP/3 implementation in Python https://github.com/aiortc/aioquic (notice the GoogleChrome/samples WebTransport sample code is described as local server "There's code for a sample local server at https://github.com/GoogleChrome/samples/blob/gh-pages/webtransport/webtransport_server.py") fit into the categories you color "Framework" and "Webserver"?

Whilst the article rightly mentions aioquic to use HTTP/3 with Python, it is only a minimal example server. Hypercorn is a compete ASGI server built on aioquic that is likely more useful practically.

The title of this post puts emphasis on "written in C", making me wonder when this would ever be a desirable feature, given that more secure implementations are available, and can be integrated into old C projects just as easily.

No need to rewrite everything from the ground up: https://github.com/cloudflare/quiche#curl

The issue is dead silent too!

https://github.com/cloudflare/quiche/issues/1115

Even though Oxy is a proprietary project, we try to give back some love to the open-source community without which the project wouldn’t be possible by open-sourcing some of the building blocks such as https://github.com/cloudflare/boring and https://github.com/cloudflare/quiche.

They’ve been on the Rust train since at least 2019. Just look at projects like quiche, wrangler, and boringtun

It's more like Cloudflare forked nginx a long time ago, and is meanwhile in the very slow (like, decade-long) process of replacing it entirely.

The Cloudflare Workers Runtime, for instance, is built directly around V8; it does not use nginx or any other existing web server stack. Many new features of Cloudflare are in turn built on Workers, and much of the old stack build on nginx is gradually being migrated to Workers. https://workers.dev https://github.com/cloudflare/workerd

In another part of the stack, there is Pingora, another built-from-scratch web server focused on high-performance proxying and caching: https://blog.cloudflare.com/how-we-built-pingora-the-proxy-t...

Even when using nginx, Cloudflare has rewritten or added big chunks of code, such as implementing HTTP/3: https://github.com/cloudflare/quiche And of course there is a ton of business logic written in Lua on top of that nginx base.

Though arguably, Cloudflare's biggest piece of magic is the layer 3 network. It's so magical that people don't even think about it, it just works. Seamlessly balancing traffic across hundreds of locations without even varying IP addresses is, well, not easy.

I could go on... automatic SSL provisioning? DDoS protection? etc. These aren't nginx features.

So while Cloudflare may have gotten started being more-or-less nginx-as-a-service I don't think you can really call it that anymore.

(I'm the tech lead for Cloudflare Workers.)

Ask Cloudflare why they use HTTP/3 and QUIC https://github.com/cloudflare/quiche.

Cloudflare has used rust for multiple projects in the past such as their QUIC/HTTP3 implementation Quiche and a WireGuard implementation BoringTun.