WASI VS ruby

WASI Co-chair here. Nothing in WASI is "somehow blocked by Google", or indeed blocked by anyone at all. Graphics support in WASI hasn't been developed simply because nobody has put energy into developing graphics support in WASI.

At the end of 2023 we counted around 40 contributors who have been working on WASI specifications and implementations: https://github.com/WebAssembly/meetings/blob/main/wasi/2023/... . That is a great growth for our project from a few years ago when that issue was filed, but as you can see from what people are working on, its all much more foundational pieces than a graphics interface. Also, if you look at who is employing those contributors, its largely vendors who are interested in WASI in the context of serverless. That doesn't mean WASI is limited to only serverless, but that has been the focus from contributors so far.

By rolling out WASI on top of the WASM Component Model we have built a sound foundation for creating WASI proposals that support more problem domains, such as embedded systems (@mc_woods and his colleagues are helping with this), or graphics if someone is interested in putting in the work. Our guide to how to create proposals is found here: https://github.com/WebAssembly/WASI/blob/main/Contributing.m... .

> As I understand it, it's not even really possible today to make WebAssembly do anything meaningful in the browser without trampolining back out to JavaScript anyway, which seems like a remarkable missed opportunity.

That's the underlying messy API it's built on. There are specs to make the API more standardized like https://github.com/WebAssembly/WASI

But overall, yeah, it feels like a shiny new toy everyone is excited about and wants to use. Some toys can be fun to play with, but it doesn't mean we have to rewrite production systems in it. Sometimes, or most of the time, toys don't become useful tools.

Snapshot Preview 1 is the standard all tools are building to right now. The specification is available here: https://github.com/WebAssembly/WASI/blob/main/legacy/preview...

It's pretty unreadable though!

Preview 2 looks like it will be a big change, and is just being finalised at the moment. I'd expect that when preview 2 is available there will be an improvement in the quality of documentation. I'm not sure how long it will take after release for tools to start switching to it. I'd expect Preview 1 will still be the main target at least for the rest of this year.

> Like WTF does this mean? The repo tells me nothing

Directly above the sentence you quoted:

"Interposition in the context of WASI interfaces is the ability for a Webassembly instance to implement a given WASI interface, and for a consumer WebAssembly instance to be able to use this implementation transparently. This can be used to adapt or attenuate the functionality of a WASI API without changing the code using it."

> and I've still yet to see a clear write-up about what WASI is.

In the same document: [0]

> WTF is wit?

The first link in that document ("Starting in Preview2, WASI APIs are defined using the Wit IDL.") is [1].

> I click on "legacy" and I see preview0 and preview1, which are basically unreadable proto-specs.

The README for the legacy directory [2] clearly explains what they are.

> Where's a single well-written WASI spec?

"Development of each API happens in its own repo, which you can access from the proposals list." [3]

> Whatever WASI is doing, I don't like it.

Clearly not - you've gone out of your way to ignore all of the documentation that answers your questions.

> And neither does AssemblyScript team apparently

The AssemblyScript team have a bone to pick with WASI based on their misunderstanding of what WASI is for (it is not intended for use on the web) and WASI's disinterest in supporting UTF-16 strings. You can see for yourself in [4].

[0]: https://github.com/WebAssembly/WASI/tree/main#wasi-high-leve...

The Bytecode Alliance initiated a sub-project called the WebAssembly System Interface (WASI). WASI is an API that allows WebAssembly access to system features such as files, filesystems, Berkeley sockets, clocks, and random numbers. WASI acts as a system-level interface for WebAssembly, so incorporating a runtime into a host environment and building a platform is easier.

We are excited to contribute back to Wasmtime and the component model, as well as to new projects and proposals emerging in this space (such as new Wasm proposals, like WASI Preview 2, wasi-keyvalue, wasi-sql or wasi-cloud).

I've been reading the following repositories.

https://github.com/WebAssembly/WASI/blob/main/Proposals.md

To create a new Rails app, you should have Ruby and Rails installed on your machine. You can find how to install Ruby on your local machine using the Ruby docs. You can install Rails by running the following command:

Ruby testing with RSpec

Not parent poster and do not have production YJIT experience. =)

My guess is that you would monitor `RubyVM::YJIT.runtime_stats[:code_region_size]` and/or `RubyVM::YJIT.runtime_stats[:code_gc_count]` so that you can get a feel for a reasonable value for your application, as well as know whether or not the "code GC" is running frequently.

https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/master/doc/yjit/yjit.md#pe...

Link to the commit

Part of the major userbase pull in GitHub revolves around hosting a considerable number of popular projects including Angular, React, Kubernetes, cpython, Ruby, tensorflow, and well even the software that powers this site Forem.

Hold option and click on the “collapse file” button in the Files view of a commit or pull request, and it will collapse all the files.

Select text in a comment, issue, or pull request description and press r—the selected text (including markdown formatting) will get pre-populated as a markdown block quote reply in the next comment box.

Add .patch or .diff to any pull request URL if you want to see a plain-text diff of the pull request (e.g. maybe you want to quickly `curl ... | git apply -` an unmerged pull request into a local copy of the repo without trying to add and fetch the git remote that the pull request is from).

There are lots of keyboard shortcuts. For example, / to jump to the file finder.

Not so much a secret but more like a hiding in plain sight: when looking at a commit GitHub will show you the earliest and latest tag (i.e. release) that includes the commit. For example, this commit[1] first appeared in v3_2_0_preview3.

[1]: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/commit/892f350a7db4d2cc99c5061d...

The title is misleading, just like other commenters mentioned. Just check how much indirection "rb_iv_get()" has to make (at the end, it will call [1], which isn't "a light" call). Now, check generated JIT code (in a blog post) for the same action where JIT knows how to shave off unnecessary indirection.

We are comparing apples and oranges here.

[1] https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/b635a66e957e4dd3fed83ef1d7...

I'm not sure why, but all the source values are listed here: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/1cc700907d3ad3368272488a6f...

Maybe someone knowledgeable in the underpinnings of Ruby will explain why "class variable" was not hyphenated.