Ryven VS C4-PlantUML

I really wish Livecode hadn't pulled their opensource/Community Edition (and I'd be very glad for someone to do something with that code).

Gambas is something I keep wanting to try and seems promising.

I did one small app w/ Python and TKinter, but it was a dense wall of text/code when I was finished and not something I was interested in revisiting. I keep seeing suggestions that Python w/ QT support is supposed to be quite good.

One unlikely option is Google's Blockly (which I wish had a stand-alone desktop implementation which would make graphical programs), which has a nifty version implementing OpenSCAD:

https://www.blockscad3d.com/editor/

which I've used a fair bit. Moving on from there, there is: https://github.com/derkork/openscad-graph-editor which has the advantage of encompassing the entirety of OpenSCAD. It's also possible to wrap up Python using PythonSCAD.org

If you're willing to consider other node/line connection systems two promising options are:

https://ryven.org/

and

https://nodezator.com/

What sort of coding, on what sort of projects do you want to do?

There are general visual programming tools for python like ryven or PyFlow that should be able to run generic code, so in theory you can put SimuPy code in the blocks.

"What does an algorithm look like?"

I'm an intensely visual person, but have never found a visual programming system which scales well --- the problem is, past a certain level of complexity one has to use modules, which then devolves the visual representation down to just a bunch named blocks.

That said, I'm using BlockSCAD:

https://www.blockscad3d.com/community/projects/1421975

to work up designs which I'm then putting into other tools.

Looking at GraphSCAD:

http://graphscad.blogspot.com

and there's also Ryven and pythonocc which I managed to get installed:

https://ryven.org

https://github.com/Tanneguydv/Pythonocc-nodes-for-Ryven

but I'd really like to see a tool for this sort of thing which made G-code.

Why this over https://ryven.org/ ?

Interesting, came across https://ryven.org/ recently which looks in the same domain.

Any practical use cases of either being used?

Huge fan of NodeRED, always thought the paradigm could be leveraged for other heavy workflow applications

I'm developing Ryven (https://ryven.org), a python-based visual nodes editor/platform. I recently published a tiny prototype plugin for Ryven 3.1 inside Blender (https://github.com/leon-thomm/ryven-blender). As Ryven is Python-based and quite easy to use, and Blender already had success with an integrated nodes editor, I would like to find out whether based on Blender's Python API it'd be possible to develop a large, powerful, compatible, and easily extensible framework of nodes for Blender that run on Ryven.

This seems very similar to https://ryven.org/

Third this. Don't look any further, just do it!

Also, PlantUML + C4 is like peanut butter & jelly:

https://github.com/plantuml-stdlib/C4-PlantUML

I'll gladly give up control of layout, and accept some ugliness, to never again have to worry about dragging boxes and arrows to be pixel-aligned, and then do it all over again when I add another box...

It looks like Mermaid has C4 support too:

https://mermaid.js.org/syntax/c4.html

C4-PlantUML: Export your model as C4-PlantUML diagrams.

PlantUML + C4 plugin;

Yes. I use this all the time for software diagramming. With c4 model (https://github.com/plantuml-stdlib/C4-PlantUML) and AWS icons (https://github.com/awslabs/aws-icons-for-plantuml)

The C4 model (https://c4model.com/) is great for architecture diagrams. You can use different tools to generate them. Here are the ones I've been using:

- https://github.com/plantuml-stdlib/C4-PlantUML

3️⃣ Text-based diagramming- C4-PlantUML

> onboarding docs

yes, they're don't changing frequently

> system design docs

yes - see C4-PlantUML[1]

> meeting notes

no, unless they're directly code related like ADRs [2,3].

Although one can abuse Github Issues + comments for this, in my opinion it's better to use modern SaaS tools for this, i.e. Loom, Descript, Linear.app, etc. - you can automate this process, e.g. transcribe the meeting's recording and add the issue/repo using Github Actions.

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[1] https://github.com/plantuml-stdlib/C4-PlantUML

[2] https://adr.github.io/

[3] https://docs.aws.amazon.com/prescriptive-guidance/latest/arc...