PySimpleGUI VS nicegui

Just a heads up: PySimpleGUI 5 isn't open source any more [0], and the official GitHub repo was replaced with a stub [1]. From the blog post, it sounds like the people behind it will probably remove the FOSS version from PyPI soon.

It's possible the community will fork it with a version of PySimpleGUI 4 that's still kicking around, but I haven't seen one yet.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39369353

[1] https://github.com/PySimpleGUI/PySimpleGUI

Their old CONTRIBUTING file <https://github.com/PySimpleGUI/PySimpleGUI/blob/1fa911cafee6...> said:

> Pull requests are not being accepted for the project. This includes sending code changes via other means than "pull requests". Plainly put, code you send will not be used.

> I don't mean to be ugly. This isn't personal. Heck, I don't know "you",the reader personally. It's not about ego. It's complicated. The result is that it allows me to dedicate my life to this project. It's what's required, for whatever reason, for me to do this. That's the best explanation I have. I love and respect the users of this work.

It's obvious in hindsight that those reasons were a bald-faced lie, and the real reason was exactly that he could legally do this rug pull.

From https://github.com/PySimpleGUI/PySimpleGUI/issues/142

> 2023 is going to be the "Make or Break" year. I ultimately need to determine if the project is going to continue. To date, it's nowhere near sustainable. The income doesn't cover the cost of the project, meaning that it's not only unable to allow me to pay for my cost of living, but I continue to rack up debt, borrowing money, to keep the project functional.

> This isn't new information if you've followed the over 1,200 announcements I've made since Sept 2018. The data is available should you wish to look at the GitHub Sponsorships and do the simple math required to calculate income from Udemy. It would be great for the project to keep going. I'm hopeful, but more than hope's required to keep the project going.

So if you like this project and want to see it around in the future, please support it.

Github sponsors is probably the best place: https://github.com/sponsors/PySimpleGUI

The psutil package makes getting a list of running programs not very difficult. There's an example demo program that polls once a second and displays the top process using CPU time. You could use it as a starting point perhaps.

How does it compare with remi? https://github.com/rawpython/remi

Looking at the examples, for quick UIs, REMI seems simpler. And PySimpleGUI (https://github.com/PySimpleGUI/PySimpleGUI) offers REMI as a backend to deploy on web too (PySimpleGUI is pretty simple to learn).

Random Password Generator (what an orginal name!) or RPG for short is a simple password generator that uses PySimpleGUI GUI framework, in order to have a user-friendly interface and also because i wanted to have fun.

Another approach when the data is easy to graph is to use the Graph Element to create a graph. A Demo Program shows how to make something like this.

I was looking at this space and nicegui seemed like the best ootb experience.

https://nicegui.io/

Dash is similar in spirit, as a "build web UIs with Python" framework. Dash seems more similar to nicegui (https://nicegui.io) architecturally than to Hyperdiv. Like nicegui, it builds a static dom that is then mutated via callbacks or data bindings.

By contrast, Hyperdiv lays out UI declaratively based on state, and when state changes, the app re-runs, generating an updated UI. Streamlit and Hyperdiv seem to work similarly, though I'm not sure how Streamlit handles state and state-based layout.

For native GUI, DearPyGui[0] as modern as you can.

For browser web-based GUI, you can use nicegui[1]

[0] -- https://github.com/hoffstadt/DearPyGui

[1] -- https://github.com/zauberzeug/nicegui

I want to bring to attention a set of frameworks that make webdevelopment using Python simple and fun. The popular opinion maybe that webpages developed with Python maybe slow. But this is not the case. Do checkout https://github.com/ofjustpy/ofjustpy/, https://github.com/zauberzeug/nicegui/ and https://github.com/justpy-org/justpy . All these frameworks are build on top of Starlette and make web development really easy. If you want simple and ready to use the nicegui is the choice. If you want fast, scalable, and more control then give ofjustpy a try.

Yes, NiceGUI aims for a very gentle learning curve. Coming from Streamlit I suspect your main adaptation will be that in NiceGUI you need to write valid Python code. Streamlit constantly reevaluates your script which feels nice and easy but creates lots of problems down the road. See https://github.com/zauberzeug/nicegui/discussions/21.

Auth is a big limitation. It's not a built-in component, they have [an example](https://github.com/zauberzeug/nicegui/blob/main/examples/aut...) using the FastAPI layer for auth, but I haven't had time the time to try implementing it. It's definitely not something you get out of the box with NiceGUI.

For scaling, I am viewing it mostly as an internal tool builder. I wouldn't recommend it for external applications. So as far as scaling an internal app I think it works fine. [Their website](https://nicegui.io) is built with NiceGUI, and it works fine, but you can feel the lag occasionally on some of their larger demo pages.

Well, I was at PyCon Ireland last weekend and I missed the NiceGUI talk. I hear postive things about it and anything shiney and anything frontend-related always catches my attention (although I admit talking to a friend when I missed this talk was just as fun, and it was worth it).