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The issue is described here: WebView2 does not support passing in a CoreWebView2Environment · Issue #1170 · microsoft/WindowsAppSDK (github.com)

.. and how many of the Microsoft applications actually use WinUI3? As far as I can tell they're doing their own thing (Office) or are Electron (Teams) or, at least in Windows 10, haven't actually been updated from WinForms.

The overhead of WinUI3 is pretty huge. The visual designer, a winning feature of Visual Studio for decades, is AWOL. Why? It's XAML, the same as the previous XAML designer! It's just .. broken?

The backward compatibility story is a disaster: you can get stuck in the UWP sandbox https://github.com/microsoft/WindowsAppSDK/issues/1780

What's the big Microsoft WinUI3 flagship app, then? Something people are actually using? Rather than just a few system dialogues. (How many Win11 settings pop up a Win32 dialogue box, still?)

Development for WinAppSdk and WinUI 3 is also very slow and Microsoft seems to not want to push it and invest more developers into it for some reason. They try to improve the framework, is just it's a small team. For example it was a headacke to apply the Mica backgrop and required unmanaged code, they made it simpler and reduced it to a line of code but it took months. I have 2 out of 7 issues fixed on WinAppSdk repository and 0 out of 8 issues fixed in the WinUI 3 repository (some of the older than a year). This are just my issues, there are many other opened by other developers. So yeah, it wasn't fun at all. PoweshellSDK had an issue with the Import-Module command and it wasn't fixed for more than a year and probably won't be ever fixed, but I'm glad I found a workaround, even more clean and more safe, otherwise I couldn't have added the posibility to uninstall and change Store apps.

As far as I know, there are still some issues with OIDC integration. See this, for example.

this I'm interested in. WinAppSDK is open source.

I think the issue is actually the sandboxing and other stuff. WinRT StorageProvider API is known to be extremely slow and NTFS / Windows IO subsystem is itself already quite slow compared to UNIX. The issue IIRC is that StorageProvider is designed for sandboxing and the way they implemented that involves doing RPCs to other processes. So there's probably some heavy context switching involved, but it's architectural, and so the voice recorder was never fixed.

https://github.com/microsoft/WindowsAppSDK/issues/8

Disclaimer: I work for Microsoft. I even work on WindowsAppSDK just not the WinUI parts. People far more graphically inclined and talented than I handle that 😀

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The tooling is not entirely open or freely available.

If you, for e.g., want to debug you have to use MS tooling.[0] You also can't use VSCodium because only the MS built/distributed version of VSCode contains the necessary proprietary binary blobs necessary to debug C# (which also means you're forced to using the aggressive telemetry and other data collection built into the non-open source distribution of VSCode).

They've also taken steps to lock down the LSP support for C#, which once again requires that you use a MS sanctioned code editor to write C#. [1]

I really enjoy writing C# and think dotnet is a great platform to develop for, but the barriers preventing me from building more projects on it is that I don't want to be forced to use VSCode or Visual Studio.

[0] https://github.com/dotnet/core/issues/505

Microsoft does not adapt their new products to operating systems (https://github.com/dotnet/core/issues/7556) which have reached End-of-Support status. Therefore, the game's system requirements have changed:

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